Cotto's defense blows

Yep! Complete shutout!

 

I am sure I came off like a smart ass but I really believe that is why you made this thread. :: Williams was exposed by a good boxer with good counterpunching skills. Quintana is nothing special just a solid boxer. Margarito has been exposed by the same type of boxer more than once. There aren't ANY fights that I need to see to prove who is #1 at 147. Floyd's the best guy. Regardless, I would like to see him fight Cotto and prove it.

 

The count benefitted him considering how he was getting knocked around the ring. You are right though it was not a real KD.

 

He didn't put more hurt on Williams then Quintana did. More importantly Quintana took way less hurt from Williams.

 

god that ass is great. fuck!!!!!

 

Cotto's defense is no worse than Castillo's was.

 

the Quintana/Williams result is a perfect example of why you shouldn't be content with "knowing" who the best fighter is at 147.

And again, the term "exposed" does not apply here. How can you say someone was exposed in a fight he losy 115-112? That's ridiculous.

And Margarito nearly pulled out the win in the last half of the fight with Williams. How in the hell is that exposed?

Exposed is Quintana/Julio. Or Tszyu/Judah. Or Mormeck/Big Truck.

 

Yeah I cant stop looking at that Alba Pic! Damn!:bears:

 

not that i agree with you, but so what if it isn't? what's your point?

 

Double, is it true that you really thought that Margarito and Williams were #1 and #2 at welterweight?
Please answer yes or no.

 

yes, dimwitnipple. that was my belief. but know this. william's loss to quintana does nothing to raise pbf's or cotto's status at 147.

when everyone starts fighting everyone else, and pbf stops fighting junior welterweights and 35 year old shop-worn superstars, and cotto stops fighting contender runner-ups and pillow-fisted metro-sexuals, only then will we know who the best welterweight is.

 

Well, if Margarito didn't turn down Cotto's offer to fight his sparring partner instead, Cotto would have fought him. Do you think Cotto will step up eventually and fight top contenders like Golden Johnson?

 

Who do you think is better Double L, Shane Mosley or Golden Johnson?

 

They already fought but Golden was green.

 

So, you believed that Williams was the best welterweight in the world, because he defeated Margarito.
Do you believe that Quintana is the best welterweight in the world now, that he's beaten Williams?
I see only two choices for you:
1) You admit that Quintana is the best welterweight in the world, since he defeated the best welterweight in the world (Williams, according to you) or
2) You admit you are an idiot.

 

It alot better than it used to be.

 

I cant speak for Floyd, but how does it NOT raise Cotto's status? Miguel destroyed Quintana in 6, and Quintana schooled the shit outta Williams. I still like Paul as a fighter, however if Williams ever fought Cotto, Paul would take a vicious beating.

 

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typical Xitude. just read his mm predictions. now quintana "schooled the shit out of williams?" unbelievable.

 

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Quintana did school Williams. He got outworked in some mid rounds but besides that he boxed the shit out of Williams and landed close to all of the clean punches. Quintana beating Williams as he did raised Cotto's status without a doubt.

 

sorry. i only discuss realities. can't respond to this one.

i will say this though - williams needs tolearn to deal with opponents who hold himinside because despite his length, he's not so much a boxer as he is a inside fighter - he's unique in this sense - tall, long,active and preferring to fight inside. not the usual opponent for any fighter so quintana gets credit for his cleverness - but he still stunk alittle for my liking.

 

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That is the reality. Quintana won 116-112. The rounds he lost was because his stamina isn't the best. In beating Williams Quintana has proven he's a pretty good fighter that Cotto bashed up. Where as if Williams bashed up Quintana people would say his win over that guy didn't mean anything.

BTW-Williams mostly beat Margarito from the outside.

 

Quintana rounds 8 rounds to 4, it was not a whitewash, but it was a schooling. Williams looked out of his depth and "schooled" as Quintana was doing a number on him and landing that straight left at will.

 

dsimon writes:

Exactly. :bears:

Also people tend to neglect something else. AS good as Cotto is... and he is exceptional and at the top of the division along with Floyd, Cotto is still developing. His defense is getting better, look at the Torres fight compared to the Mosley fight. Cotto is learning more things to do in the ring and how to execute better. Cotto's win over Pauley speaks volumes in this respect. He beat a cutey decisevely and wit no real problems. Cotto's job is to try to find a way to beat Mayweather which imo he will not do right now.

The problem with Williams and Margarito is that they simply are unproven at the highet level of the division. Margarito fights cab drivers, black guys in sequines and guys who are solid secong teire. Williams was talked up on the basis of fighting Margarito. Neither of these guys have proven as much as a guy like Baldimore for example, who laid the requesite beating on the spaz.

To put things in perspective when Quintanna, a solid and talented guy, beat Williams, he made himself a solid second teire guy. Quintanna, Williams and Margarito are the solid second teire of the diviision along with Kermit, Paulie and Cintron.

 

so William is an INSIDE fighter? YEAH..he will really have a chance against COTTO then....:: ..Williams will fight Cotto on the inside...that should be fun...cause in the outside alot better boxers than William have tried and fail...

 

just because he fights Cotto inside doesn't mean he's in range of Cotto.

don't be so sure you know how this fight would turn out. i'll give you this though - Cotto has a better shot at beating Williams than PBF does.

 

PBF will destroy and embarrass Williams! Cotto will KHTFO!

 

if and when either of these fights get made (doubtful), i'll make a wager with you.

 

And this is one wager I would accept! :bears: