Crawford-Gamboa: Final predictions

that's simply nonsense, no way did the fact that Gamboa looked like a kid fighting a man, had an impact on the fight result.

 

I want to see Lomachenko vs. Riggo. Is that fight possible?

 

I believe Loma might be one weight class above him. Rigo should move to 126.

 

Lomachenko said he wanted a few more fights under his belt before he'd be ready to face Rigondeaux.

 

I don't believe for a split second that Gamboa is better than Crawford. Handspeed sure can fool people. Crawford is a more skilled operator, and simply has more dimensions to his game and more substance.

And Gamboa can't beat Mikey Garcia at this point. He could have a few years ago at 126. Not now though.

Crawford is the only guy from 130-135 who beats Mikey. Now that TC Is moving up to 140, Garcia can rule lightweight.

 

REED Would Give Lomachenko a PASS for a Bout or 2, to Maybe Revisit Salido 1st, but Aside from That, Hell Yeah, Loma vs. Gamboa!!!...

REED's ALWAYS Respected Gambo's Offensive Capabilities & Now Appreciates his HEART...Dude's a TRUE Warrior...Motherfucker was in HOSTILE Territory, Facing a BIGGER Man & was HURT Several Times, yet his INNATE Reaction was to ATTACK the Bigger Man, When Hurt...You CAN'T Teach, Coach or Train a Guy to DO That...A Guy Either WILL or he WON'T...

If Gamboa Stops Fucking Around & COMMITS to a Realistic Weight Class, he Can STILL Fulfill the Potential Most Saw in him, Upon Turning Pro...But that's a BIG If...

As Impressed as REED was w/Lomachenko's Win Over Gary Russell, the Gamboa that was KO'ed by Terrence Crawford Last Night, BEATS Loma...He'd TEST Loma's Chin in a Way we HAVEN'T Seen & There'd Obviously Be LESS of a Size Disparity...





REED:cheer:

 

for all of crawfords skill and length he was only able to begin to time gamboa's attacks because he had the size and chin to take the hard shots gamboa was landing throughout the fight. and even after gamboa was a beaten man he still managed to finally hurt crawford in the last round. to me size was the underlying factor more than crawfords skill and timing because he never wouldve been able to get to that point where it turned the fight around.

 

Exactly. It simply wasn't a fair fight. It was basically a featherweight VS a lightweight.

Size was the telling factor in this fight more than anything else, that's why I'm reserving judgement on Crawford. He simply walked through Gamboa's best shots, and I highly doubt that is the case if they were the same size.

 

Handspeed, schamdspeed. Before getting hurt and worn down by the bigger man, he simply looked the better fighter. Better defense, better footwork, better timing and accuracy.

 

My thoughts exactly :bears:

I don't get how most people aren't seeing this. Size was the primary factor in Crawford taking over. He was able to simply walk Gamboa down, like a bigger fighter can, and take his best shots in order to land his own. It would have been a completely different fight if they were the same size.

 

If you base the quality of two fighters off of FOUR FUCKING ROUNDS, then by that logic Zab Judah is better than Floyd. Because Zab was getting the better of Floyd for the first 4 rounds.

Crawford's size was A factor, not THE factor.

The PRIMARY factor was his ability to time, and counter Gamboa, which had NOTHING to do with size, and EVERYTHING to do with TC's ability.

Like I said, if it was Brandon Rios in there, Gamboa dances around and pot shots the Hell outta Rios all night, despite the size.

But he couldn't do that with Crawford, because TC is a top flight technician. A BETTER technician than Gamboa.

 

That goes without saying. I'm not saying size was the only factor, just the main one. You're acting like the size difference meant nothing, and ignoring that Crawford was able to walk Gamboa down and take his punches like they were nothing. That had fuck all to do with Terrence being the better technician Xplosive, and everything to do with him being bigger.

Gamboa was in control before he got hurt and before Terrence realised Gamboa couldn't hurt him. To my eyes, that was the story of the fight, and one that probably wouldn't be the case if they were the same size.

But anyway, the main point of my post that you quoted is it wasn't just handspeed on display for little Yuriorkis, it was all the things I listed.

 

Nope. It wasn't the main factor. Gamboa gets hurt by Crawford at ANY weight. The guy has never had a durable chin, not even at 126.

It was a PERFECTLY timed right hook that turned the tide. That right hook wasn't about size, or power. It had everything to with Crawford's great timing, and having the IQ to figure Gamboa's style out.

 

He didn't look better to me. It simply looked like Crawford was just warming up and getting into his rhythm. As early as the 2nd round, he was already TIMING Gamboa with the counter right hook, and landing a lot of jabs.

Gamboa's only advantages were hand speed and reflexes. His footwork was actually AWFUL. He was off balance and all over the place whenever Crawford would turn or pivot.

Crawford simply has more elements to his game than Gamboa, who mostly relies on athleticism, speed, and power, similar to Judah back in his day.

 

I'm a GGG detractor, and I also think that Crawford is the best in his weight class but he's not p4p material. He's good, and he had the perfect tools to dismantle Gamboa. People will inevitably get carried away by this performance and will overrate him a bit. It's normal.

 

Crawford isn't in the same class as Floyd, Rigo, and Ward. Never will be IMO. I don't think he's as good as GGG, and Kov either. But he's amongst the 10 best fighters in the world.

 

its not about crawford hurting gamboa. its about gamboa, a guy who has shown fight altering power throughout his career, not being able to hurt crawford when he landed flush power punches.

 

Well, he DID hurt TC, in the 9th. Crawford recovered very quickly.

There's just too many holes in Gamboa's game for me to believe he's better than TC.

I would compare him to Khan, but that's unfair. Khan blows, and Gamboa is a quality fighter. But he's a quality fighter with many holes when he jumps in.

 

Exactly, and if that power had the effect it should, it would have stopped Crawford being able to walk him down and do the consistent damage he did.

 

I think you and Neil need go back and re-watch how the KD's actually took place. They were NOT the result of TC walking Gamboa down. They were the result of TC countering between Gamboa's flawed combos.

It's a lot easier to get away with those mistakes against a crude guy like Salido. You make those mistakes against a technician like Crawford, you pay for them.

 

its a lot easier to stand your ground and punch while the other guy is punching when you have learned you can take the other guys' best punches.

 

There's no evidence to believe that TC has a weak chin. But we've always known Gamboa's top weakness was his mediocre chin. So even P4P, if they stand and trade, Gamboa has more speed and power, but Crawford is more accurate and takes a better punch.

 

Arum wants to match Terence with Beltran in November.

 

wouldnt mind seeing crawford vs barthelemy, but beltran is a decent foe

 

Barthelemy already lost decisively to a guy Bertrand beat easily. So clearly Bertrand is more deserving.

 

Aint nobody p4p until they rematch Ricky Burns!

 

I'd like to see Terrence Vs Braddles at 140.

 

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REED:kidcool:

 

Crawford will just have to keep beating people to make his point. He doesn't fit the SRL/RJJ mold of flash and speed and I think a lot are misinterpreting that as a lack of ability. It's a real sort of narrow-mindedness if you ask me.