Dana White HATES Randy Couture and will continue to hate him as long as he's alive

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  1. Anthony

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    I didnt admit i was wrong about what i said, i admitted i was wrong about HOW i said it. HUGE difference.

    Now you are making a different point. Initially you talked about some weak ass number for UFC 50 and then TUF came along and big numbers started. Well it's not entirely true. There were numbers pre UFC 50. Buyrates in the 100s of thousands. And there were low numbers After TUF. Numbers below 100k. My point was that while TUF did bring attention to the UFC, it did not spike the PPV numbers past Liddle/Couture PPV consistently. UFC 47, 48 & 51 all had more PPV buys than UFC 53. But liddle was establishing his reign and i think that had a great deal to do with spiked PPV sales. THAT and access to these UFC PPV became more available.
    1 - Wrote it wrong and clarified my remarks now 3 times.
    2 - I never said that.

    I never seen things that it was Dana & the UFC that lost 34 mil. I have read that zuffa lost 34 million, there is nothing to indicate that all of that was a UFC loss. Also, i still dont know if Dana was against TUF. It's something people say, but i have never seen Dana say that. But even if Dana thought that, he still is in charge of each season and runs ever aspect of the competition. And he did successfully.

    No, it's not really fair to say. Especially since Dana was running it.

    I dont dispute the first PPV after TUF was the biggest they had to date. But there is more to it than just TUF. It was how TUF was run and overseen (Dana) The Deal with Spike to Come on after WWE, keeping a good chunk of their audience (Dana), The increase in cable companies showing the event after a television deal was established (Dana), The Storm of publicity on ESPN, Newspapers, Fox Sports Net (Dana). TUF wasn't just placed on Dana's lap in a nice package and Dana just sat down and waited for the finale. It was organized and orchestrated to match the other shit Dana was doing at the time to get the UFC name out to the public. It was a perfect storm that had more to do with the success than Just TUF.
     
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  2. TFK

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    That's not a realistic way of looking at it. The UFC was on the verge of bankruptcy. It had almost zero in the way of assets. To think someone, anyone, could come in and take a failed business that was off of TV and illegal in most states and have it immediately turn a profit is pretty foolish. If anything, I think the $34 million dollar figure shows exactly how bad of shape the UFC was in.

    It was obvious White and Zuffa had a plan, and it's even more obvious that their plan worked. Their investment just needed time, money, hard work and great ideas to come to fruition.

    Again, to think anyone could've done with White has done is ridiculous. To think White only succeeded because of the money behind him is ridiculous as well. Look at Bodog. Calvin Ayers was worth over a Billion dollars, and his MMA group failed miserably, in spite of having fighters like Fedor, Eddie Alvarez, Bigfoot Silva, Lindland, Sonnen and Mousasi fighing for them and an endless supply of money financing it.

    As for TUF and it's origin, I have heard many conflicting stories about that, including that White AND the Fertitta's were originally against the idea, but that was the only way Spike would work with them, to the original idea being a reality show about White as a promoter (like they did with the Fertitta's running a casino), and so on and so on. I guess it all depends on what you want to believe.

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  3. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I suspect that the $34 million dollar claim is bullshit. There might have been $34 million invested, but claiming it was 'loss' is almost certainly untrue, at least in the typical way that accounting would treat it.
     
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