David Haye is on the cover of Fight Night: Champion

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  1. mexican wedding shirt

    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    That's a fucking stupid thing to say.

    I know how to push a stick, I've been playing games since the age of 5.

    Quite simply, I prefer pushing buttons, it's more precise, more accurate, more enjoyable for me, and it's how fighting games should be played.

    Try playing a technically demanding game that requires 1 frame inputs like Street Fighter with a fucking stick instead of buttons.

    A stick can't compare to the timing and precision offered by classic buttons, it's gimmicky.
     
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    As I said previously - it'll all much less frustrating now that you can download boxers within a week or so anyway. I spend half my time playing the game with Joe Louis who was never included last year.
     
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    Hut*Hut The Mackintosh of temazepam

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    Bud, catch a fucking grip. No idea what's going on with you but go have a wank & a coffee & destress.
     
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    It is though, read it. It's a stupid, patronising thing to say.

    All gamers know how to push a stick, it's downright ignorant to suggest such a thing because, gasp, some of us might prefer pushing buttons.
     
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    I can confirm for you guys fight night will be a lot better then before
    the mechanics are better, no freezing arms, and it doesnt appear spamming is effective
     
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    How have you played it Mickey?
     
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    Yeah but how? :lol:

    PS, do you still play Super?
     
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    I work at EA
    Every so often i do, if u wanna play shoot me a pm or a message and ill jump on

    cause i work at EA i dont really play games as much as i did before
     
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    I'm with Mex on this one. Buttons are badboy, sticks are for dicks
     
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    Since you work at EA see if you can give someone this suggestion concerning this point

    If properly designed the game can cater for HARD punches PLUS the ability to go 12 rounds. In boxing we get early KOs and decision fights. Game designers, if they are smart should NOT have to sacrifice one for the other.

    Have a system in which the punches are HARD and have huge impact on the health bar...but also allow the health bar to regenerate quickly (some fighters quicker than others obviously...another rating pointg). The effect of this means that 1st round KOs are likely if the opponent doesn't know how to cover up and/or defend themselves well enough to allow the health to regenerate. and conversely if you have two skillful fighters in terms of defense tactics...fights could go the distance.

    Also the game should allow for stoppages on your feet, like real boxing. Too many answered punches for example..or too many times stunned in the same round. Something.

    Please suggest these things.
     
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    No need to relay the message, everything u said is being worked on and improved.

    The stoppages on the feet is something I can suggest
     
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    Thanks:Thumbs:
     
  14. Arben

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    read: Easier

    Sorry to make things difficult, but as the videogaming world progresses, so does the mechanics of how to play them.

    Button mashing ruined previous fight night games and ruins many video games.
     
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    A ridiculous assertion.

    I've noticed that the people that whinge most about the button mashing usually play online and have been frustrated by 'spammers'.

    As I don't play online, I don't care. Use the buttons or don't, it should be up to the individual. To say that flicking the stick is as accurate as pressing a button is dishonest at best.
     
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    Wrong. What ruined the previous fight night games is that they weren't scientific enough to minimize button mashing. It's in the design of the game. If there is more of a penalty from low stamina, people wouldn't throw as many punches, for example. If low stamina not only makes you slow down dramatically, but also puts you into an automatic stun state, people wouldn't throw as many punches.

    Also if there is more of a cost associated with missed or blocked punches, the same thing.

    Look at the street fighter series. We use buttons to kick and punch. Do those games get ruined by button mashing? NO. Why? Because a button masher simply CANNOT win a street fighter 2 game if he playing against anyone even half way decent. The design of the game means you have to play cat and mouse and tactical.

    The idiots at EA sports need to realize this, and stop thinking that analogue sticks are the way to improve tactical fighting.
     
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    In due fairness to people like myself, why should I? Is there one good reason it should be forced upon me? There isn't.
     
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    TPC has changed, but its a lot easier to do now.
    You can still use the bottoms but they have done certain things to reduce the amount of spamming

    Also the same focuss more on you slipping punches and stuff, so constantly hitting some one with the same punch isnt really effective in the bigger scheme of things from what im seeing
     
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    Absolutely agreed.

    Arben's logic is retarded at best.

    Using sticks is more difficult, and that's why we should do it? :lol: :lol:

    Using that logic, why not use a joystick to control a car, and control it with our nose instead of our hands?

    Afterall, who wants to do something easy like use a steering wheel, when you can do something pointlessly difficult and inefficient like use a nose joystick?

    Your logic is absurd.

    In this world, things are generally geared to be as efficient and fun as possible. Using buttons to control moves/actions is far more efficient than pressing a direction on a stick. It allows a level of precision, accuracy and timing not afforded by using a direction.

    The funny thing is, using a stick isn't even difficult. It just seems like a more casual way of playing.

    If you took a demanding, technical fighter like Street Fighter 4 that has 1 frame links and generally demanding execution and mapped the punches and kicks to a stick, do you know what the result would be?

    An overall lower level of play. People quite simply wouldn't be as effective as they were on the buttons.
     
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    Why do you keep comparing a boxing game to Street Fighter? They are nothing alike.

    If using the stick is such a burden and the button much more accurate, then why has every sports video game gotten rid of buttons to perform actions? NBA, MLB, NHL, etc...


    Edit: And I don't care much for spammers. I beat them online all the time. Let them spam, because when you think about it, the only way to stop most of the spamming is to slow the game down. Slowing it down too much will make it boring.
     
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    For those of you complaining about how hard it is to use the stick they fixed that too. Rather then making a motion each direction does a specific punch

    Buttons are still there also
     
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    How many of you actually currently play round 4?

    I coulda sworn I tried to make a thread to kinda start a laid back boxing league type deal and everyone was quite
     
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    Arben "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I own it for xbox, but I haven't played it in a while.
     
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    I checked into the TKO thing. There is a method to TKOing people, but its now what youre looking for
     
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    I wanna know if you can edit a real fighters weight class like in Donaire's case can you edit him from a flyweight to a bantamweight
     
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    cool, well mention my suggestion, it'll help with the drama of the game. Also, there should be even more cost for loss of stamina. Fighters should be in "stun state" when they hit zero stamina, where they are stumbling around and vulnerable to punches. That'll help eliminate button mashing, instead of the stick using nonsense.

    The right cross needs to be improved also so it seems like a power punch, but only for those that have good right hands.
     
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    i will see if i can answer that
     
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    i prefer a controller for street fighter over the stick. i think the stick is better for charge characters, the controller for command ones.
     
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    Hahaha, I should have clarified, I meant using a stick for punches/kicks a la fightnight, not to control the character.

    Obviously that would be retarded.

    Do you play SF4 on the 360? What's your GT?

    I agree the stick IS more accurate for charge characters, precise for the diagonal charge etc, but having used a pad since the Japanese release of SF2 on the SNES, I just play better on a pad with everyone.

    By Arben's logic, we should use a spoon to cut our steaks because it's not as easy as using a knife.
     
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    i didnt realize you meant the analog stick. i thought you meant arcade stick.
     

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