David Haye vs Derek Chisora

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    mexican wedding shirt The Greatest of Are Times

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    That's probably what he INTENDS to do I agree.

    But doing that against a very patient, defensive, 6'6 heavyweight who can punch is easier said than done.

    If he keeps rushing in he's going to get smashed with right hands and risk getting KO'd, so like most of the others he'll be reduced to plodding around eating jabs, whilst looking for an opportunity to land a big punch.

    He may be undefeated, but he's only got 14 fights. He's a relative novice, the gulf in experience in huge. How is he going to react to a big stage? How is he going to react to being hurt? How is he going to react to being frustrated behind a long, disciplined jab? How is he going to react to a slew of racial insults from the Gerrys?

    I've seen the Danny Williams and Sexton fights and honestly, the guy is pretty average. Haye would beat him too.

    He is pretty basic and sloppy, with crap defense. His power is also average at best.

    You say 9 KO's out of 14 fights like it's impressive. Bear in mind it's against scrubs and he's a heavyweight, and that KO ratio is average at best.

    He hit sexton with a multitude of power shots and couldn't KO him, just forced a TKO.

    Wlad has a shit chin, but it's not like this guy is a monster puncher.
     
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    Pretty sums up in what is going to happen.

    Has Frank Warren had a knock on the head? It's not like him to put someone as inexperienced as Chisora into a World Title fight this early in their career.
     
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    Chisora, at best will probably land about 15-20 jabs on wlad and 40-50 power punches. Wlad will laugh as he gets tickled and will pound chisora until he can take no more.
     
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    Anyway, isn't this thread to discuss who would win between haye and chisora?
     
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    Chisora winning will throw heavy weight boxing on its head and make it exciting again. and Chisora will throw alot more than 15-20 punches, you obviously know nothing of boxing, and any one who had watched the danny williams fight, would of seen what power and speed Delboy has to offer.
     
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    Okay Irish, where the fuck did you lift this from?

    MTF :laughing: :nono: :laughing:
     
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    Chisora is going to get raped in this fight. The last time a guy from these shores was so overmatched was, so far as I can recall, Gary Lockett when he took his beating at the hands of Pavlik.

    The best thing that can happen to Derek here is that he gets sparked out nice and quick. No point in earning a few bob if you take a sustained beating which mushes whatever tiny brain that fucking idiot has inside his skull and renders him unable to spend his cash.

    MTF
     
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    You're hopelessly dim. I feel embarrassed for you.

    Gauging Chisora's worth based on a fight with a completely shot Danny Williams :lol:
     
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    15-20 jabs i actually said. You're constant appraisal of chisora is becoming tedious.
     
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    I was at the chisora/williams fight. Williams was well past his best. A prime williams batters chisora
     
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    your short sightedness shake and bake and your lack of faith in him, will be your undoing, tedious my ass!
     
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    Anyway it will be a awesome clash of styles, when Haye and chisora meet, if they can agree on terms after Chiisora beats Wlad!
     
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    It's actually my understanding of chisora being just another average boxer. I hope i am wrong of course, as chisora is british, but unfortunately my friend i can't see the bloke winning.
     
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    Yes, it needs a black guy from Zimbabwe called "Dereck" who was recently arraigned on assault charges and given a non-custodial sentence for beating his girlfriend who was so ashamed of the quasi-sexual nature in which she was assaulted that she testified from behind a screen.

    This is the kind of guy we need. For sure. He would be some bwoy.:blackcloud::blackcloud:
     
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    :boring::boring: The Germans have a higher opinion of Iranian women than Chisora does, that's for sure. Just ask Boris Becker.
     
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    it worked for Tyson lol
     
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    :scratcher::scratcher:

    No he went to jail mate. :warning:
     
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    how you see chisora doing against Haye?
     
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    Haye will beat him, 109-108 on all 3 cards, after both fighters are deducted 10 points for lack of action.
     
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    I think chisora will give haye a bit of trouble. Haye isn't the best boxer as like chisora, but Haye obviously has more speed and punching power. I think despite chisora making life somewhat uncomfortable for haye, haye will beat him by late stoppage.
     
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    Klitschko: Wants to fight Haye in NYC Next Spring.

    Vitali Klitschko says he wants to sign a contract with David Haye to fight in spring 2011 within "the next month".

    Haye retained his WBA heavyweight title when he demolished Audley Harrison, while Klitschko is the WBC champion.

    Klitschko is the older brother of IBF and WBO champion Wladimir and wants to fight Haye first because "Wladimir will kill him".:laugh11:

    Vitali Klitschko told the BBC: "Stop talking. I'm ready to sign any time, let's make the fight in springtime."

    He continued on BBC Radio 5 live : "No excuses any more, he talks too much, he's a great talker, but the question is, is he a good fighter or not?

    "He's world champion by talking. Let's fight. Let's go."
    Vitali Klitschko added he would offer Haye a 50-50 deal and is prepared to fight him anywhere in the world.

    "Let's discuss where we would fight. Let's fight in the United States. I listened to a great proposal for Madison Square Garden. I'm ready to fight in the US, Germany or Great Britain," Vitali Klitschko added.


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    Vitali is a mean old dog. He knows that Haye hates ultimata and that by offering the fight in New York, the old excuse about Germany is gone. He knows Haye most likely doesn't have any extensive US Contacts, especially outside of Miami, and that he won't be able to agree to anything inside the next month. Klitschko, by contrast, has topped the bill at MSG before and most likely has contacts.
     
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    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/boxing/9193038.stm

    Interviewer is a complete asshole. Of course, it's the BBC, so.....:rolleyes:

    Interviewer: "Which of you wants to fight Haye first"

    Vitali: "I do...because Wladimir will kill him"

    Interviewer:
    "So......you want to fight him to soften him up for Wladimir"

    Vitali: ":dunno:....."Wladimir kills him and I doesn't have opponent any more.."":dunno:

    Interviewer:
    " WHERE!!!!! WHERE WOULD YOU WANT TO...IN UK OR IN GERMANY"

    Vitali: Let's fight in United States! :crafty:

    Interviewer: "WHY!!!" :bangh: :boohoo:

    Vitali: "I got a great offer from MSG"*

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    * I like that answer a lot. You can hear the interviewer get all impudent when Vitali mentions NY. They know they can play the Germany card all night but there are no excuses for not taking the fight in America. Don't confuse that with it being right that they be obliged, by Americans, to take it in America, but rather the case is that once one of the fighters decides to take it Stateside, there should be no rational objection from either. As it stands, he is not based in the UK, but in Cyprus, which would make Germany the obvious location for any fight. Now with the offer being made to fight in the USA, Haye knows there is no more room for BS.

    MSG, next Spring, be there :shadow:
     
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    It's gotta happen. :popcorn:
     
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    He's been offered 50-50, no terms, and at a neutral location, and has been asked to sign a contract within 1 month.

    I don't know what more Haye can ask for.

    He seems to have be irrationally demanding that the fight take place in the UK, despite Haye having only had 3 title fights, at any weight, on UK soil, where he fought the positively iridescent likes of Harrison, Enzo Mac and Ruiz.
     
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    Look at when he confronts Wlad in this clip :shit: - he's quaking in his boots and putting on a front for the camera. :pointlaugh:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnOANul82Tw
     
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    Thanks for a moment of clarity. I thought there was another Chisora out there that I didn't know about.

    The one I do know about (barely) is pathetic and honestly doesn't deserve a ringside seat at a championship fight let alone to actually compete in one.
     
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    I think the main reason this fight has not/will not happen in the near future is DonKing/GBP/Sauerland. Basically every promoter under the sun has options on Haye. I don´t know how many fights, but until he´s a free agent, he´s not going to make the biggest payday of his life, a possibly career altering beating as the hands of either Klitschko, to give away a large percentage of his purse.
    Let´s say he gives up 10% to them. From fighting Harrison that might be 500k, but 2.5 million against a Klitschko. That´s why Sauerland is already pushing hard for Haye to fight a Klitschko next and says due mandatory Chagaev won´t be a problem, because he cannot be sanctioned with his Hep B.
     
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    I know Im in a small minority but I think Haye has a much better chance against Vitali than Wlad.

    I'd give Solis & Povetkin better chances against Wlad.
     

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