oh come on, Ibeabuchi wasn't THAT unproven Haye has been hurt by far lesser fighters Ibeabuchi all the way in my opinion
Thank you. Ramonza is too dismissive of Ike for my liking. Tua and Byrd were both good wins...and proved he was no fake.
Ike lost to Tua and looked pretty ordinary in every other fight of his I've seen, other than Byrd. Still, I'd go with Ike here.
I think Ike is madly overrated by some (and equally underrated by most Ramonzas), but he proved himself against better heavies than Haye. Of course, what happens this weekend could change my opinion, but as of today it's Ike by stoppage.
Apologise for putting you on the spot, friend, but I know I have heard you rubbish Chris Byrd as a fighter. David Tua never did, & never will impress me. I'm not saying those wins weren't good --- I admit, that would be unfair --- I am merely contending they don't warrant talking about the guy who earned them (by a thread, in the Tua case) more than a decade on, when the remainder of his career is virtually empty. He's a fraud. To clarify, I'm not saying he couldn't have proven himself better than what we saw. I'm saying, for what he did, he has no business garnering the attention he does. I've seen him either win or competitively lose to almost every all-time great HW on a bunch of forums.
Chris Byrd was slicker than Haye and he couldn't outbox Ike. Tua hit considerably harder than Haye and he couldn't drop Ike. Ike by KO, 3 or 4 rounds max.