David Tua vs. Evander Holyfield

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by Dog Jones, Aug 27, 2010.

  1. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I shook hands with Holyfield last year when he was in Finland. He is about as tall as me and I was kind of surprised that he didn't look much wider than me either. However what did strike me was that his hand is really large and his knuckles are like a ball made out of bone. You could tell that with such a hand you can make damage.

    So I shook his hand and told him that I had rewatched his fight against Douglas tens of times since for long it was the only boxing tape I owned and I also told him I admired his career. He didn't say shit but instead walked right into his car. Next time I see that pussy I'll spit his face
     
  2. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    I can sure tell you met him judging from what you told him and his reaction.

    The guy is an asshole, bottom line.
     
  3. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    First you mention how large and powerful his hands looked and how much damage he could do with his hands and then you talk about spitting in his face.:lol: You want a ball-knuckle sandwich?
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    He could only do damage against those crappy heavyweight professionals. I would beat the clown up if he had the balls to fight me
     
  5. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I think amateur results are often great predictors of what to expect in a pro ring. Always exceptions. 20 years since the am fight took place--seems like a good exception.
     
  6. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Rocky 4 came out in 1985.
     
  7. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Vitali would have dominated Holyfield. Moorer shut down Holyfield's offense. Vitali is several levels above Moorer when it comes to shutting down offenses.
     
  8. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    That takes the cake as the stupidest post I have seen in quite some time here.
     
  9. Hanz

    Hanz Roberto Duran

    Steroids was being done before Holyfield came along. How could you possibly know who was doing steroids or not, Stinger?
     
  10. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    This idiot is equating a 5'6 actor playing a heavyweight champion in the movies to introducing steroids into proessional boxing??

    Where did you find him, Hanzy??
     
  11. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Do you really need another enemy on this board?

    You said that Holyfield introduced steroids into pro boxing. Rocky 4 is proof positive that it wasn't a novel concept 'introduced' by Holyfield.

    For you to fail to see that point and instead go in the direction you did...well, it doesn't speak highly for your mental prowess.
     
  12. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    You are an idiot equating a 5'6 middleweight movie actor in a drive inn dump of a movie (back when we still had them here) to introducing steroids in proessional boxing.

    I have seen some humdingers here..but that takes the cake.
     
  13. Slice N Dice

    Slice N Dice Big stiff idiot

    I met Evander when he was on Soccer AM, I was annoyed he didn't have a go on Road to Wembley, but he's a nice guy, top bloke.
     
  14. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

    about 11 years tooo late.
     
  15. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    If Stallone introduced steroids into pro boxing, which he didn't, he did it in the capacity of a being a writer, not an actor. The movie clearly shows that steroids were not introduced by Holyfield, though.

    Get it, dipshit?
     
  16. cdogg187

    cdogg187 GLADYS

    you called him an asshole, would YOU say that to his face, Mr. Rib Roasters?

    fuck off, you're too stupid to even know when you are contradicting yourself
     
  17. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    I have to agree with Karl that your post was STUPID. Sorry. Rocky IV was 1986 in any event..and Evander was a professional since 1985. But besides that..Rocky IV is FICTION....and was basically US cold war propaganda against the Soviet Union..and hinting at Soviet union athletes in general using drugs..as opposed to the "fair play" of the great Americans. It wasn't referring to steroid use in professional boxing per se.

    So your post is asinine on many levels bra..sorry to tell ya.
     
  18. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    You don't have to apologize for being wrong.

    Wiki says Rocky 4 was in 1985.

    He pointed to Evander being the guy who brought steroids to pro boxing, yet when was it ever acknowledged that Evander actually did steroids? The speculation was there, but guys like Tommy Morrison and Frans Botha were proven steroid users long before Evan Fields ever existed. You really think they got the idea from Holyfield? It's nonsense.

    Steroids were known well before Holyfield and well before Rocky 4 came out. And I'm sure boxers used them during the 80's, and probably in the 70's. And it wasn't because they predicted some dipshit from Atlanta would be using them 10 years later.
     
  19. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    Holy will whup Tua. .a dec but not look too great

    then he will look awesome vs Wlad and WIN!!!:partie:
     
  20. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

    Lee Haney was his weight-training and weight-gaining coach. Evander did not bodybuild. Haney, however, was Mr. Olympia for many many years.
     
  21. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

    Evan Fields or Tye Fields?

    I'm not stirring trouble with anyone here, but I find it hard to believe that Evander introduced steroids to boxing.

    Steroids were being used by athletes in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and 80s. I find it hard to believe Evander introduced steroids to pro boxing. Surely coaches knew of them and made use of them prior to Evander winning his medal in Los Angeles.

    http://www.anabolicsmall.com/roida3a.htm
     
  22. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    'Evan Fields' refers to this:

    Sports Illustrated reporters Luis Fernando Llosa and L. Jon Wertheim are tracking the investigation of an illegal steroid distribution network that has implicated pro athletes. On Tuesday, they accompanied agents on a coordinated raid of an Orlando compound pharmacy and a Jupiter, Fla., "anti-aging" clinic that investigators allege conspired to fraudulently prescribe steroids, human growth hormone and other performance enhancing drugs over the Internet.

    SI.com: In addition to major league outfielder Gary Matthews Jr., another prominent athlete whose name has surfaced in media reports is Evander Holyfield, the four-time heavyweight boxing champ. What do you know about his situation?
    Llosa/Wertheim: Ironically, Holyfield's name does not appear in the law enforcement documents we reviewed. However, a patient by the name of "Evan Fields" caught investigators' attention. "Fields" shares the same birth date as Holyfield -- Oct. 19, 1962. The listed address for "Fields" was 794 Evander, Fairfield, Ga. 30213. Holyfield has a very similar address. When we called the phone number that, according to the documents, was associated with the "Fields" prescription, Holyfield answered.

    http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2007/more/02/28/holyfield/
     
  23. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    How many people actually believe this?
     
  24. Buddy Rydell

    Buddy Rydell Boxingpress Alumnus

    Very interesting, mikE. I thought you were talking about Tye Fields, who looks like the world's biggest juicing boxer.
     
  25. Mitchell Kane

    Mitchell Kane WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I remember some talk at the time that when Bobby Czyz went on his Holyfield is a "manufactured" heavyweight rant (prior to the Tyson fight, I believe it was on the Tyson-Seldon broadcast after the fight), that he was referring to steroid use.
     
  26. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    I mean that Evander "introduced" steroids to boxing, not if he ever used them.
     
  27. mikE

    mikE "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    1
     
  28. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    That's what i figured but wanted to make sure i wasn't missing anything.
     
  29. StingerKarl

    StingerKarl Ace Degenerate

    No, weightlifting and weight gaining are not bodybuilding, David..of course not.:scratcher:
     
  30. TysonFan4Ever

    TysonFan4Ever Leap-Amateur

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