Davis out. Machida-Evans II slated for 133.

Machida is an idiot.

WAR TITO!!!

 

Dana thinks fighters should care more about being "motherf*cking fighters" than they should about money.
Fighters on the other hand care more about money than being "motherf*cking fighters!"
No wonder Dana and his employees can't get on the same page.:atu:

 

Lyoto might not be able to be released at this point without compensation.

 

why would Dana Shite want to release a guy who delivered a high quality KO to Couture? Anderson-esque fashion! Keep Machida!

 

Put me down for the same. I love the Dragon but this was a golden opportunity against a guy you already bitch slapped.

 

Interesting quips from the UFC 133 Conference Call from this morning:

Dana White said Rashad Evans told him not to even bother calling to get his acceptance for a new opponent. He said he'd fight anyone they decided to pair him against. ------Actually bolsters my respect for Evans a little bit.

White said he didn't consider bringing in any Strikeforce Lightheavies as a replacement. ------Since Henderson and Mousasi already have fights scheduled, not sure who would have made sense any way.

Chris Leben and Chael Sonnen both texted White asking for the fight. Both were willing to jump up to 205 for the opportunity.------Those dudes are just crazy.

 

I read a Lyoto interview on sherdog regarding this and I agree with him 100%. Bottom line is this they asked him on short notice to fill in for Davis . Guy isn't prepared and his team can't even come to the usa because of visa issues. To give you an analogy here if they ask you to come into work on a Saturday are you going to get double pay or regular wage? Same thing here. This is business . This is not buddies doing each other favours. Dana wants Lyoto to come fight on short notice without his team and all that. Pay the man. Don't be cheap Dana. Nothing is for free in this world you know that damn well. Lyoto would be very stupid to take the fight possibly lose and suffer a huge set back and who knows maybe even get cut because that would put him at 1-3 in the last for (1-4 arguably)

 

Chris Leben and Chael are both guys I had on my mind, but Chael still doesn't have a license.

 

Cmon Anthony it's Lyoto. Poor guy doesn't speak English. He probably thought he agreed to a line of action figures in his likeness. His wife translated for him and he called back saying whoa whoa whoaaaa.

 

That's how i see it too. He shouldn't back out after giving his words, especially vs a man he already handilly defeat

 

Rogerio out.

http://mmajunkie.com/news/24439/nogu...e-franklin.mma


Nice.

 

damn, what a shitty card this has turned out to be. i'm still excited about akiyama-belfort though.

 

Evans - Ortiz 2? .

 

Sorry Joony. It looks like you get to go see a relative lame UFC card.

I'm not saying anything, but there have been a lot of injuries since the UFC's Accident Insurance move. They might re-think that one.

 

Doubt it. Dana is the one that pulled Davis from the fight himself. Davis wanted to and was going to fight.

 

That's what I was thinking too. Most fighters come into the bout with some kind of injuries. Very few of them are 100%. This policy may turn out to be a total fail from Zuffa.

 

Again...no. You guys are bullshitting to make up crockpot theories based on what you want to believe. Phil Davis went into his last fight with Nog injured, fought through and was planning to take the rest of the year off until he realized he had a big opportunity, he aggravated the injury and DANA HIMSELF pulled Davis from the fight. Said he didn't want Davis to aggravate the injury any further and potentially tear his ACL. That he was young and had too much potential.

Fukuda got into a car wreck. Nuff said.

The only other two to pull out were Nog and Matyushenko, who are a combined 75 years old. Not exactly shocking.

 

You can spin it however suits you, but the bottom line is that 5 or 6 guys that were supposed to be on the UFC 133 card ended up injured.

Coincidence? Perhaps, but what about UFC 132 just a month ago that also had 4 fighters injured (Fitch, Penn, Dunham, Swanson)

I'm not saying the injuries aren't real, but maybe some of them are things guys would have fought through if not for the insurance.

 

I'd say this is probably the most accurate summary.

 

4. Not 5 or 6.

4 is not a big number at all. And no, it isn't a coincidence. This literally has happened for years. And no, they wouldn't have fought through them. Dana wouldn't even allow Davis to fight.



UFC 120 - 4 injuries (Blackledge, Te-Huna, Cantwell, Kim)
UFC 122 - 3 injuries (Brilz, Robertson, Sakara)
UFC 123 - 3 injuries (Rory, Ruedinger, Elkins)
UFC 128 - 5 injuries (Evans, Assunciao, Swanson, Vemola, Gamburyan)
UFC 130 - 6 injuries (Edgar, Maynard, Bart P, Cody McKenzie, Kid Yamamoto, Brad Pickett)

Events since accident insurance

TUF Finale 13 - 1 injury (Brookins)
UFC 131 - 5 injuries (McGee, Yahya, Perosh, Pokrajic, Danzig)
Danzing and McGee both had major muscle injuries.
UFC Live - 3 injuries (Johnson, Kampmann, Riddle)

Then obviously the last two mentioned.

Literally nothing new about this. I was wondering where this came from then I saw that some moron wrote an article about it on MMAJUNKIE and now the collective is running with it like it was actually based on facts.

 

Ummmm... Tell me who doesn't belong on this list from 133

Jon Jones
Phil Davis
Jose Aldo
Fukuda
Matyushenko
Lil Nog

You might question the inclusion of Jones and Aldo but they were both expected to be on the card if NOT for injuries.

That being said, you've convinced me it's just coincidence. Good information from previous events.

 

Aldo had a medical suspension, it was completely impossible for him to take the fight.

Jones wasn't injured by the way. He had no injury to speak of.

Unless a bout is signed, it's not logical to include those two, otherwise you'd have a lot of other fights that would be included as well.


I think the insurance would maybe give the fighter's more security to pull out if they are badly injured, but these guys still want to be paid, the insurance isn't going to pay their bills.

A lot of it has been pure happenstance.....a guy like Cub Swanson is just flat out injury prone.

Rogerio and Matyshenko are ancient. Fukuda got into a freak car accident. Davis was already hurt going into the fight....etc.

Not to mention, a lot of these "injuries" seem to be awfully suspicious and probably the UFC's doing.

As already stated, I firmly believe the UFC uses "injures" as an excuse to stop bad matchmaking. I think it happened with Fitch-Penn II(Joe Silva said that the UFC nor the fans want the fight, so it's not being reschedule....pretty suspicious), Davis-Evans(absolutely awful matchmaking, if Davis wins you derail the Evans-Jones hype and put in a guy who probably isn't an immediate contender where you can't do a match, if Evans wins as expected, you just knock off a rising prospect likely before he was ready)....now Dana pulls Davis out of the match against his will....DUH!

Not a coincidence.

I think the same thing happened with Evans-Shogun to be honest. The UFC wanted Jones to get the title shot because I think they legitimately feared Evans would be Shogun(they probably knew how bad Shogun was is in shape then), and they feared Jones and Evans wouldn't fight and the rise of Jon Jones would be delayed.

 

Alessio Sakara tore his ACL. Replaced with Costa Phillipou on the main card. ::

The hell with this event. I might have night shift during this event and I probably won't even care enough to download the replay.

 

haha while y'all ponder about ordering this ppv or not, i already bought tickets to this crappy event. either way, here's a hoping that akiyama-belfort doesnt get called off. that's the only fight i'm interested in seeing.