De La Hoya-Chavez Jr. 'is in the works'?

Or Hopkins.

 

hopkins can hope that pavlik is ruined and that bum rubio somehow beats him. that's another easy W at 170 for hopkins. ::

 

say what you want about ODH/Chavez Jr. as a potential match-up, but two things are for sure:

1. It will do great PPV numbers
2. It will be an exciting fight

 

The Quintessential DeLa DICK RIDER...If DeLa Pursued a Fight w/Christy Martin, U'd JUSTIFY it N Some Way....



REED:mj:

 

Come on ....Margarito and most active fighter today would give up 10-15 fight paydays to just fight DE LA HOYA....

 

dude. he's clearly shot. and yet he can make $20 million to fight a scrub. do you blame him?

at least his card will likely have a decent undercard and proper lighting, and be exciting, unlike RJJ's crap PPV's against Hanshaw and Abaju. Talk about fighting scrubs in the twilight of his career. RJJ is the worst offender. It got so bad he actually was forced to take on a real opponent. And thus he got he azz kicked, like we knew he would all along if the day ever came when he did.

 

What makes you say that?

 

I'm not so sure about Oscar winning this one. I think Jr may be catching him at the right time.

 

Why is it that EVERYTIME Somebody SHITS on Your DeLa NUTHUGGERY, U Thrown Roy Jones into the Convo???:dunno:....The FACT is, Roy Jones was TWICE the Fighter DeLa EVER was...Must SUCK to B YOU, HATING on Roy for All these Years, KNOWING he's Better than YOUR Favorite Fighter...



REED:bears:

 

well, i'm speaking relatively, as compared to RJJ, who's Square Ring produced PPV's have shit undercards because RJJ's company has nobody in his stable worth a damn.

 

As said in my earlier post...who do you think will put up the money for this show? Golden Snaggle Tooth has been propped up by HBO money since it's inception. Created Boxeo De Oro to showcase their up and coming fighters...outside of grabbing established fighters...who have they built into a marketable star?

Their free HBO run is pretty much over.

 

Yep, Kevin Kelley-Derrick Gainer I was a SHIT Square Ring Undercard Fight...U're PATHETIC, Dude...Roy Jones has WIPED his Ass w/Guys that YOU PREDICTED to Beat him, yet U Still REFUSE to Give him Credit...

Like REED Said, Roy Jones is TWICE the Fighter DeLa is/was....YOUR Favorite Fighter is a Fucking CROSSDRESSER that just Got his Ass ROASTED by a Midget....& 2 Make it Worse, he QUIT!!!...

Hope U're Proud...



REED:mj:

 

Poor Double doesn't even realize that he got owned right there. Maybe that's a good thing for him::

 

i contest that. so no, it doesn't suck to B me. RJJ is a pussy of a fighter who ducked nearly every challenge that was ever put in front of his face. wow. what an all time great. his performance against Calzaghe, IMO, was even worse than ODH's. At least ODH kept fighting and didn't ball up like a whimp.

the reason i bring him up when you bring ODH up is because so much of the criticism you levy against ODH is hypocritical coming from the mouth of a RJJ fanny-sucker..

you can't have it both ways. you can't spend 75% of your posts criticizing ODH and be a RJJ fan. it defies logic. and i feel a responsibility to call you on it.

by the way, i think ODH's move to 160 to fight Hopkins was more courageous than RJJ's foray into the heavyweight division where he fought one scrub in one of the most boring fights ever on PPV.

and i've been critical of ODH too. his fighting (or wanting to fight) guys like Hatton and Pacquiao, when Margarito is the best in his division represents an aberration for him, and is clear evidence that he's fighting strictly for the money now.

i also thought his performance against fraud-floyd was pretty pathetic when you consider the lack of passion and will to win that he exhibited, especially going down the stretch.

and i'm sure it's why PBF refused the rematch, knowing that ODH, had he not been going nearly strictly for the knockout, could've easily pulled out a decision.

i think his performance against Manny can be explained by a couple of things:

1. The expectation was that he would walk through Manny making his loss to him all the more shocking

2. The commentators were very quick to highlight every reel of Pacquiao landing on ODH

3. ODH did land punches on Pacquiao and fought an energetic fight - his punches just didn't hurt Pacquiao the way he expected them to

4. His determination to get his weight down as low as possible so as to silence the critics who called the fight a farce weakened him

5. Manny's hand-speed and durability I think were unexpectedly impressive

6. Manny's style was something ODH had never seen anything like before

Having said that, I don't think it's fair to say that ODH looked horrible or that he didn't try or that he's completely shot based on that performance. Try watching the fight with the sound off - you'll see what I mean. He hit Manny with a lot of what I think he wanted to hit him with - it just didn't do the damage I think he expected it to. Also, he did hurt Manny a couple of times - whether it's smart or not, Manny is always quick to give away when he's hurt by lifting his arms in the air. He did that at least twice against ODH.

At any rate, you can argue the merits of giving it all you got to the point of having to quit, versus balling up like a whimp against the ropes when you have no answer and are afraid to engage your opponent, but in my opinion a fighter should try to win - not try to survive.

 

Well, G is closely aligned with Finkel, as well as working with other managers, so they should still be able to bring in talent after the old timers league dries up...but no, they don't quite know how to match or bring along that talent.

G does also have that association with USA Boxing, now, which could prove to be a nice recruting tool.

 

ha ha ha. Derrick Gainer. RJJ really lucked out with that one. That's clearly an exception to the rule. RJJ rips off the public every time he steps in the ring because even when he's winning, he wins like a puss in a boring as hell fight that by round 8 degenerates into a tedious 2-step dance.

 

WOW!!!....

Uuuuh, did U SEE Round 6 or 7, when Pac LITERALLY Had DeLa COWERING N a Corner "Balled Up" like a COMPLETE Wimp???...U're Telling REED to "Watch the Fight w/the Sound Off", How Bout USING YOUR EYES, Dude....

Against a CONSIDERABLY SMALLER Man, DeLa NEVER EVER Went for Broke...EVER....But N TRUE DeLa DICKRIDING Fashion, U're PATHETICALLY Attempting to Put a Positive Spin On Perhaps THE most EMBARASSING Loss N Boxing HISTORY...

Roy Jones SHITS On DeLa...The ONLY Thing DeLa has on Roy is POPULARITY...But N Terms of BOXING SKILLS, TALENTS & ABILITIES, there's NOfuckingCONTEST...

Only YOU would Say DeLa was More Impressive TAKING A DIVE from a Bodyshot, than Roy Jones GIVING UP 33 Lbs to a YOUNGER Opponent...U're Amazing, Doub...U're THE SAME Guy that Said Roy Jones DIDN'T have the BALLS to Fight Ruiz, but NOW U're Dissing Ruiz...Just like U PREDICTED WHOlio Gonzalez would BEAT Roy, but Instead of just ADMITTING U Were WRONG, U BITCHED OUT & Said your Prediction was "Facetious"...

U're LAME, Dude...

Roy Jones is Supposedly a "Puss", yet YOUR Favorite Fighter Wears FISHNET STOCKINGS, HEELS & THONG Bikini Bottoms...If THAT Ain't "Puss", what Is???....Even Now, Days away from Being 40, Roy Jones WOULDN'T Get his Ass HANDED to him by Some Guy the Size of a Jr. High Schooler....

Roy Jones > DeLa...Ask ANY Historian, Writer or Trainer...




REED:mj:

 

Yep...The Public REALLY Got there Money's Worth from DeLa-Tito, Didn't They???...


REED:boohoo:

 

We're talking about now...not four or six years down the line. Oscar was the only real ticket seller Golden Snaggle Tooth has. I forget who wrote it, but some writers stated that Golden Snaggle Tooth had to GIVE BACK $2 million because the Hopkins-calzaghe fight sold so poorly.

At this point, Hatton is the ticket seller in the stable and again...they didn't make Ricky...he was self-made.

Hell, at this point Juan Diaz is a bigger draw than Mosley and Hopkins.

 

Why do you call him Golden Snaggle Tooth?

 

it's hard to call it.

On one hand I think Oscar is shot and has no business being in a ring with anybody.

But chavez jr. still struggles with scrubs so it's pretty even. Hard to call it.

 

"Snaggle Tooth" is a Bernard Hopkins Reference...U Ever Checked Out his TEETH????::...

"Golden Snaggle Tooth" is the JOINING of DeLa & Bernard...



REED:kidcool:

 

That's a problem for HBO, and the sport, not just G.

Pavlik, Berto, Dawson, Wiliams aren't proven ticket sellers, let alone prospects/contenders like Angulo and Ortiz. (Pavlik might be able to draw in Ohio, we'll see what he does against Rubio in Youngstown).

There's been little groundwork set for these fighters.

Diaz, and Juarez, are exceptions because they have a following in Houston. The same can probably be said of Taylor in Little Rock, though he hasn't fought there in a while...but some of his fans travel.

 

again. the exception. not the rule. these are the bases you have no alternative with which to support your argument with.

 

I know that but beating Oscar is't going to mean shit right now. Magarito would deserve critisism for fighting Oscar right now because he is shot.

 

LOL. Basically, that comment defines double L.

 

Yep, he couldn't be anymore balled up and wimp-like :: ::

Double is truly insane.

 

it's not a question of whether he took a rest on the ropes during portions of a couple of rounds. he certainly did. but unlike RJJ, he didn't spend the entire fight on the defensive, deathly afraid of getting hit (a major part of the business he CHOSE to be in), seemingly with no regard for his fans or the money they paid to watch him fight.

and while this was certainly a low point in ODH's career, it hasn't been a pattern with him like RJJ. The only RJJ fights worth watching are the ones when he actually "fights" and consequently gets KTFO. Ha ha ha ha.

With the exception of the Trinidad fight, which I personally didn't find as boring as most, ODH has done nothing but entertain. RJJ would rather protect his face and rip off his fans and cry about the Olympics.