De la Hoya-Mayweather over 2 million buys!!!

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  1. TFK

    TFK WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I wasn't home that night, so I couldn't order the fight, but I wasn't gonna order it anyway. I know Floyd's style can be boring, and De La Hoya is so rich there's no way he can have the desire and hunger he once had, so that fight alone was worth nowhere near $55.

    But had they priced it better, or put some good fights on the undercard, like the Mosley-Mayorga\Margarito fight that was mentioned, I'd be much more likely to buy it.

    TFK
     
  2. Fighter

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    They are talking of a split of $45million for Oscar and $20 million for Floyd. And yet Chico was BROKE?

    It didn't barely beat the record, it passed it by almost 200k.

    Oscar-Tito numbers didn't accelerate a rematch, will this??
     
  3. valdosta

    valdosta Undisputed Champion

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    Don't matter, you are a huge minority. People bought that card to watch the main event that was hyped so well. Undercards really don't matter to the casual fans. In the end it really don't matter it sold over 2 million PPV's on the strength of 1 fight, that's pretty fucking impressive.
     
  4. Father of Muzse

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    You also have to remember that HBO spent a TON of money on advertising for this fight.

    They probably spent more on advertising than they'll pay for the rest of their 2007 cards combined.

    I doubt they'd shell out that kind of money again.
     
  5. Father of Muzse

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    Couple things...

    It's not saying much but this was a better fight than Oscar-Tito.

    Oscar's not in his 20's. At the time, he knew there were additional huge paydays out there for him. That's not the case now.
     
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    Boxing won no new fans with this wank!!
     
  7. slystaff

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    Translation: Floyd MUST be a star as well! :cool:
     
  8. Maverick

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    It was an ok fight. I didn't expect it to do 2 million though.
     
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    What!? I though nobody gave a shit about Floyd. Those numbers must be corrupt.
     
  10. ILLUMINATI

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    24/7
    cover of sport illustrated
    Time magazine articles
    commercials on national tv
    ESPN showing past fight of both fighters before the ppv
    etc..etc.....

    HBO do a 24/7 for Cotto vs. Judah or Hopkins vs. Winky..and it could those ppv could do 700-800 k easy...and cotto/judah are not well known...and hop/winky are a bit more known but boring styles..well not winky..but hop.
     
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    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    told you it would break tyson vs. lewis..or whatever the ppv record was....:tease:
     
  12. ?H?L?QU?L?$

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    That's exactly the point.. HBO wouldn't do a 24/7 about them, they wouldn't be on no time magazine, etc because there isn't that kind of interest.
     
  13. Erratic

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    It looks like it's actually rare for a megafight with crazy PPV numbers to actually be a really good prize fight.


    Mayweather-De La Hoya, 2007, 2.15 (decent fight)
    Holyfield-Tyson II, 1997, 1.99 (worst megafight ever)
    Lewis-Tyson, 2002, 1.8 (so-so, only really good if you like Lewis or hate Tyson)
    Holyfield-Tyson I, 1996, 1.59 (pretty good fight although it was overrated)
    Tyson-McNeeley, 1995, 1.55 (sucked)
    Holyfield-Foreman, 1991, 1.4 (pretty good fight)
    De La Hoya-Trinidad, 1999, 1.4 (mediocre fight)
     
  14. Fighter

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    I think if Oscar-Tito had this kind of PROMOTION, it would have done the same range of numbers.

    They were both undefeated and in their primes. Tito wasn't a defensive, kind of a boring fighter, he was a pressure KO fighter. In terms of EXPECTATIONS, that was a COLOSSAL event.

    All near future fights, WHOEVER the opponent, Oscar makes more than $10 million or more EVERY time out. His market power will not be diminshed because of this split decision loss.
     
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    Howcome UFC doesn't do 2 million buys with its stacked undercard
     
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    Did you watch the Bautista-Medina fight
     
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    Told ALL OF YOU earlier in the week that it was the richest fight ever! :tease:
     
  18. Maverick

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    Fuck you
     
  19. TKO

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    Excellent work Nostradmus.
     
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    wtf

    2.15 million buys is crazy :eeeek:
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  21. TFK

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    Because UFC is still in it's infancy in the grand scheme of things. It's still building up it's fan base.

    At the rate things are going, it wouldn't shock me if they eventually pull a similair number. It may not be next year or the year after, but if the trends continue as they do, it's very possible down the line.

    With ESPN now beginning to cover UFC, UFC airing on HBO, Randy Couture soon to grace the cover of Sports Illustrated, etc,etc, UFC's buyrates, which are already consistantly beating most boxing and wrestling PPV's, will continue to grow and grow and grow.

    When you consider it wasn't all that long ago that they weren't even allowed on most PPV outlets, that's a hell of an accomplishment.

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  22. Father of Muzse

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    Too bad it wasn't the best fight on the card.

    :lol:
     
  23. Hanzy

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    Anything's possible. Although I don't know if you're accurate about the UFC continuing to grow and grow and grow. Nothing keeps growing. Everything always fizzles out. It'll peak and like any other sport, it will have its good and bad times. Even Pro Wrestling was blazing in the late 90s.
    10 years down the road, it'll probably be just another sport like pro boxing and pro wrestling.
    Soon though, as the whole hype of cage-fighting wears thin, the UFC will need to rely on star power to market its shows the same way boxing does.
    Viewer interest always declines after a while. With Liddell and Couture nearing their end age-wise, it'll be interesting to see who will take the UFC forward, considering alot of international fighters are coming onto the scene. Are the americans ready to embrace brazilian fighters like Noguira and Silva? From the looks of it and the receptions they've been getting, not yet.
     
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  25. Neil

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    This post is sheer ignorance. The undercard would not have meant ANYthing. And I guess this guy thinks Mayweather had nothing to do with the numbers at all? If that is the case then why did this fight do nearly 800,000 more homes than any of DeLaHoya's previous fights???
     
  26. TFK

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    Every boxing forum you go to, people are bitching about the undercard and the price.

    If you don't think improving an overall product would make more people want to buy it, then I don't know what to tell you.

    And as far as Floyd goes, his next fight, if it isn't a rematch with Oscar, I'd be willing to bet doesn't get anywhere near a million PPV buys. Not even close.

    TFK
     
  27. Father of Muzse

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    $20 million in adverting?

    :dunno:

    Here's the problem Neil...

    The fight was well marketed and it was a good fight...

    "However"

    Most people I've spoken with feel let down. The amount of shit Floyd talked didn't mess with how he fought. For those who saw him fight for the first time, it was a disappoint in terms of action.

    "Like I said before"

    Floyd talked like Tyson, fought like Willie Pep.

    if you talk that kind of shit, you better blitz a guy like Pac got Morales in the 3rd fight.
     
  28. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

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    One reason UFC is big is because it has a great deal of its fighters who are white.
     
  29. Neil

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    and they were among the 2.15 million

    Wow arent you a shrewd gambler.
     
  30. Father of Muzse

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    RACIST!!!!

    You're only saying that because you're white.

    :tease:
     

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