Do you know why Floyd asked for these tests?

Where did you hear the PED situation was verbally agreed to by Top Rank?

Also Barristan, have you seen the video where floyd is talking about Manny, doesn't mention roids once, and even acts somewhat unimpressed with his last 3 performances?

He certainly doesn't seem impressed or surprised enough to think he must be juicing, just suggests that Manny is a 1 dimensional puncher, and that Oscar, Hatton and Cotto were shot.

What do you think about that?

 

Even if the police said, well there's no evidence against you, so you are not actually required to do anything by law?

 

its not about the law its about my rep and legacy.

 

So when you pass the first lie detector test and they require you to take 5 more. Your game eh? I doubt it and there's always that chance you fail because you just couldn't relax or whatever. Then your really f@cked.

 

Originally Posted by mexican wedding shirt

did you not hear the fight was on weeks ago? read this article and read the last sentence its pretty funny.

http://www.mb.com.ph/articles/233901/floyd-camp-wants-drug-tests

Of course Floyd is going to act unimpressed he's supposed to he's on TV and he wants to portray a calm, confident P4P #1 fighter. If you actually think that Floyd wasn't HIGHLY impressed with Pac destroying Miguel Cotto then I don't know what else to say man. The whole world was impressed.


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your right you got me :notallthere:

 

It wouldn't suit your cause to understand. People have failed polygraphs and been not guilty. The 5 times would be reference to the excessive olympic testing request which would be just more of the same.

I believe Mayweather camp as well as Golden boy promotions are going to end up paying Pac some coin here. The propaganda they have spread is just that. I also believe a lot of what has been said is NOT what Manny has been saying. Obviously Manny wouldn't use a "I'm scared of needles excuse." Manny is NOT responsible for his handlers misstatements however the articles I have read make serious accusations. I love the mentioning of Lance Armstrong, Kobe Bryant, etc name-dropping in the people that have agreed to testing as though they have sh!t to do with boxing.

 

Floyd asked for tests that any clean fighter would have no problems accepting. The only fighter who has refused these tests is Shane Mosley. Ummmmmmmmmm...........

 

excessive ::

 

People get convicted of murder with less evidence than what we have right now...giving up $25-40 million dollars by refusing to take a few random blood tests...but hey, he would do random urine tests and 3 scheduled blood tests.

 

This could be solved in an instant.

Pac agrees to the tests, lodges a complaint with NSAC and sues DLH/G/whoever else for libel.

Win/Win for Pac IF he is clean. I do think FM would come up with something else though.

 

Revised split, is my guess.

"We agreed 50-50 but then our good faith was____________ blah blah blah"

 

That isn't evidence.

 

The only reason he would be 'pretty sure' the stipulation would be objected to is...

1. because he knew Manny was afraid of needles?
2. because he knew Manny was afraid of blood draws close to a fight?
3. because he was pretty sure Manny would object to the stipulation if he was actually taking illegal PED's.

I'm not 3 saying 3 that anyone knows 3 for sure which it is, but 3 we should.

 

exactly...only delusional and/or naive people would buy this bullshit Pac and his team are selling......

 

Genius

 

I wonder if the fight doesn't go off and he proves his innocence, wouldn't "they" be libel for a greater amount of money?

 

I suppose that's possible as he could claim it cost him 'X' amount of millions.

I can't honestly speak to the legalities of it so I'll leave that to our more legally inclined FB brothers.

That's an interesting take however, I hadn't considered that.

 

“Pretty Boy Floyd, face me instead on March 13 in Las Vegas and not in some talk show forum or in press releases written for you by people who don’t even know me. Face me in a fight where I get to punch back. You and your cohorts have accused me of using performance-enhancing drugs. NOW, I SAY, THE BURDEN OF PROOF SHOULD NOW COME FROM YOU, NOT ME,”
said Pacquiao, the only seven-time, seven-weight division champion in the history of the sport.

I say MOVE ON, fight someone else and let Mayweather fight TO PAY Pacquaio in reparations for the lawsuit.

 

Another article on Floyd SR. Claims:

By Frank Lotierzo



Ever since current WBO welterweight title holder Manny Pacquiao blitzed Ricky Hatton--who was trained by Floyd Mayweather Sr. for the fight--in two rounds back in May of this year, Floyd Mayweather Sr. has contested that Pacquiao has been taking HGH and performance enhancing drugs. In fact Floyd Sr. has stirred the pot so much with his allegations of Pacquiao taking PED's that Manny will be tested Olympic style in the weeks leading before his fight with Floyd Mayweather Jr. in March of 2010.

Last month Floyd Mayweather Sr. told Sports Illustrated that after seeing Pacquiao take Miguel Cotto's Sunday left hook unflinchingly during their fight, he believes Manny was aided by some illegal substances and worried about his son Floyd Jr. fighting him while he was under the influence of them. Which is laughable. Even more laughable than Mayweather Sr's accusations is the fact that he doesn't even believe what he's put out there.

Actually, Floyd Sr. would love for Pacquiao to be on some type of steroid or HGH when he meets his son in three months. And the reason for that is he's fully aware that there's no drug or supplement available to anyone which helps a fighter take a better punch than he would if his system were free of them. Such a drug or steroid that transforms a fighter into a puncher via a bottle or needle doesn't exist, at least not in 2009. And if you've ever been around fighters who have experimented with them looking for an edge, you'd know they did nothing for them but mess up their body chemistry.

Some fans and writers even believe to this day that Aaron Pryor had something in the little black bottle that Panama Lewis concocted for his first fight with Alexis Arguello, and that enabled "The Hawk" to take a massive right to the chin from Arguello in the 13th round that must have been heard around the world when it landed. Then after drinking whatever was in the black bottle Pryor was able to come roaring back to stop Arguello in the 14th round. Maybe in a Rocky movie but not in the real world.

I hate to ruin the myth for those who believe Pryor won the fight with a little help, but Pryor had nothing aiding him during his first fight with Alexis Arguello that helped him come out on top. And if he did he brought it with him for the rematch which turned out to be a repeat of the first fight - only it lasted four less rounds 10 months later.

Oh, and Lewis decided to only use it for that fight and the magic energy potion is locked away forever along with the horse-hair that was removed from Luis Resto's gloves right before he fought Billy Collins Jr. at Madison Square Garden in 1983. What's more is if Manny Pacquiao is really ingesting some form of performance enhancing drugs or supplements (which I don't believe he is) and it really has improved his chin and durability along with increasing his punching power, shame on the Mayweather camp for not knowing about it and getting it for Floyd Mayweather Jr. to take before fighting Pacquiao so the fight can be contested on more even terms.

Here's the deal---pay no attention to what Floyd Mayweather Sr. has been spewing about Manny Pacquiao taking performance enhancing supplements and drugs. It's nothing more than subterfuge and a way for Floyd Sr. to inject himself into the biggest fight of the last 10 years. Remember, if such a supplement existed that helped fighters raise their pain resistance and increase their power every trainer in boxing would know about it, not just Panama Lewis and perhaps Freddie Roach.

Manny Pacquiao takes a great punch because he is a phenomenal athlete and physical specimen. Manny can really punch with both hands and take it to the head and body because he was blessed with those physical and mental gifts at birth. If he beats Floyd Mayweather when they meet next year, it'll be for no other reason than he's a greater fighter. And if he loses to him it won't be because he couldn't get over on the Nevada Commission this time and couldn't take supplements or other performance enhancing drugs. It'll be because Floyd Mayweather was the greater fighter.

For the record, Pacquiao has already tested clean 10 times without any trace of PED's found in his system by the Nevada Athletic Commission. But everyone knows that hasn't kept Mayweather Sr. from continuing to insist that he's using them. The unfortunate part of the accusations that he's tossed at Pacquiao is some fans and writers will begin to buy into them if they haven't already.

If Mayweather Sr. even had a clue as to what a steroid user looked like, he'd see Pacquiao doesn't even look like he uses steroids or HGH. He's still a small guy with huge legs (as opposed to the huge guy/tiny legs model of juice usage.) Pacquiao is now 30 years old and has filled out and matured physically later in life than most fighters in the lower weight divisions. The weight and size he's put on has come as a result of that and via a natural process.

Lastly, if there was some magic drug or supplement available that really worked and gave a fighter more punch resistance and/or added power I wouldn't put it past Manny Pacquiao or Floyd Mayweather along with any other world class fighter taking them, because all fighters are always looking for an edge to get one up on their peers.

The trouble is it can't be gained through a bottle, needle or HGH regardless of what Floyd Mayweather Sr. implies.

 

ABSOLUTELY, it's the opportunity cost of the fight not happening. The only thing is the only burden of proof Manny is responsible for is that they planted LIES in the media and boxing circles to damage Manny's reputation. That will be EASY to do.

As far as Pacquaio's innocence, that lies with the Mayweathers to prove otherwise. Do they have any PROOF, a supplier, any video, any past test done by ANY State Athletic commission that supports their statements that Pacquaio is "juicing"?

 

this guy is a clown and he obviously doesn't know what he's speaking about.
Saying Pacquioa doesn't use illegal drugs because his body doesn't look like one of a steroid user is the summum of idiocy

 

exactly.

cyclists/marathon runners are the big dopers. besides nfl of course...
saying someone doesnt look like they are on steroids is retarded.

 

Yeah, that was ridiculous.

How exactly is a boxer who uses steroids supposed to look? Is there some consistent look that all these juicers have?















Although Chavez Jr and Mayorga actually tested positive for diuretics (that are said to be masking agents for steroids) rather than steroids themselves.

 

Cyclists and marathon runners use EPO not steroids.

But I agree, you cannot tell if someone is on gear just by looking at them, although there are certain side effects that can sometimes give the game away.

 

Mayweather found the perfect way to duck Pacquiao. Make an unreasonable demand never seen in the sport. Mayweather should retire. He doesn't want to fight.

 

Are you annoyed? ::

 

Maybe Mayweather is setting precedence.....cause the drug test as of right now is kinda weak.....you get tested during the press conferences tour(3-4 months before a fight) and right after the fight...?? COME ON....

 

Making it an issue on an innocent man on slander is not the way to go about it.

Anyway, Mayweather will be broke in 5 years. He's already losing one of his homes to the IRS.