its a good fight, Id like to see it. i dont think it will be anything amazing. there are plenty of other matches between younger, hungrier guys that I look forward to more than mayweather jr vs pacquiao. how exactly do i want to be a high roller, reed? care to explain that? if you are pinning the hopes of the entire sport on a guy who cares only about himself and making the most money possible for the least risk then you are a foolish fellow.
like i said, Id like to see it happen. I dont claim to be enlightened, nor do i claim to be a super fan of the sport, as I used to be. I just dont think it will be a great match. If you guys want to cry about it not happening this year then proceed.
thats an acceptable way to look at things. but did you honestly ever think that was mayweather jr.'s goal?
i think it's great to see anyone in the ring with Floyd who can challenge him, and pacquiao can do that plus more. i am done crying, but i dont think its unreasonable to voice my disappointment in floyd/pac/boxing (moreso floys) that this fight isn't happening. i won't be commenting on or starting any of these endless Floyd-Pac threads tho its hurting the sport for this fight not to happen, imo. and i don't like that
U Spoke of ONLY Having Interest in Pac-Mayweather from a WAGERING Perspective, which is Something Only a COMPULSIVE Gambler or LEGITIMATE "High Roller" would Say... This Will EASILY Go Down as THE BIGGEST Fight to NEVER Happen...& It'll ALL B Floyd's Fault...& 15 Years from Now, when Guys R STILL Asking him why he NEVER Faced Manny Pac, Floyd will REGRET It... If "MichalSHITski" is a Name that Roy Jones STILL Hears from Time to Time, WHAT do U Think "Pacquiao" will B in Floyd's Case???... If U Think of REED as a "Fool" for Wanting THE BIGGEST FIGHT EVER to Actually Happen, then So B It... REED:hammert:
I dont gamble often, nor do i claim to be a high roller. I just think the fight will be a better money making opportunity than it will be an exciting, competitive match. Id think of you, or anyone else, as a fool if you think any of the stuff you mentioned about leaving the game of boxing in a better state than it was when he entered it has ever mattered to mayweather jr., not for you wanting the fight to happen. as it stands now Im sure many would argue that mayweather jr has contributed plenty to boxing. he has earned a lot of people a lot of money who are involved, and given fans a lot of fights they clamored for.
Spoken like the Good Little Floyd APOLOGIST that U've Always Been... Pacquiao is THE BIGGEST Fight of Floyd's Life...The Fact that Pac-Floyd DIDN'T Happen will B Talked about MORE than ANY of the Fights Floyd DID Follow Thru w/... "Yeah, he Beat Corrales, Castillo, Hernandez, Dela Hoya, Mosley, Hatton, etc., but Floyd Wanted NO PARTS of that Sawed Off Asian Motherfucker"...That's what will B Said about Floyd, 15 Years from Now... REEDopcorn:
I think Floyd doesn't care about how he's remembered. I'm sure all the cash in his pocket will be fine for him. As for his fans, well it's been a great ride, i'd love to see him do it again, but if not then there's always tapes. I wish Floyd the best and hope he had success with his out of boxing ventures.
The guy thinks he's , "good" at betting on sports. Do you know what that means? I wouldn't be surprised if he buys lottery tickets every day. Just remember, PBF's comments following the first Castillo fight was, "I totally out-boxed him." PBF wanted a digital photo of himself, like Britany Spears, on the Las Vegas hotel exterior. The guy's a punk. He's a child. He's an ego maniac. And most of all, he's a fucking moron.
Cool, maybe all your hate can trenscend into some black magic voodoo hex and affect Floyd's finances. Or not..
huh? none of that shit's necessary, assuming for the moment it's real. PBF is dumb as fuck - he doesn't need help losing everything he has. afterall, he's just a mayweather - a dumb loud-mouth loser. he won't escape his trashy roots.
Neil, you f*cking cunt! You talked sh*t to me the other day about not being a boxing fan and not giving a sh*t about the sport and the boxers in it! Now you pull this?????? You 2-faced motherf*cker! You're the biggest joke of a fan there ever was! It's plain f*cking obvious you're a Floyd fanatic and you're scared to death your boy is gonna be exposed as a bitch at the hands of Pacman. THAT'S WHY you don't want this fight to happen! You f*cker! :atu::laughing: You've just exposed yourself!
TLC and Neil, the 2 biggest Floyd groupies on this site. They're perfectly fine with this fight not happening. They don't want their beloved hero Floyd risking his ass against a guy who can bust him up and put a blemish on that record.:Giggle: Actually I'm not sure if TLC is a Floyd groupie. Reading his posts elsewhere, he'll just argue for the sake of it just as long as he can get himself in the conversation. A neutral stance is usually the best one to take to assure you get attention. TLC pulls the same sh*t everywhere he goes. Same old crap!
I must admit, I do wonder how detached & aloof those who now seem to be somehow "not particularly bothered" (ie, doesn't reflect negatively on PBF), about this fight happening would be if Manny was the one avoiding the fight....
The old "He doesn't have to fight him, he'd beat him anyway" routine. RJJ fan by any chance? Maybe we should just add Manny to PBF's hypothetical resume & be done with it.
You don't have to 'wonder' anything. Mayweather Jr was on a national radio show not twelve months ago when he took a gigantic, steaming :shit: on the sport of boxing, telling all and sundry in a rant which was posted here that 'legacy don't pay bills' and that 'I run the sport of boxing' and that 'if he left boxing, boxing was finished'...:shit: :shit: Six months later, he backs out of the biggest fight of the last fifteen years (with nothing even close on the horizon, either) after more or less publically declaring that Pacquiao was on drugs, that he demanded Olympic style drug testing and that he wanted to 'clean up the sport' I don't know what was worse: the disgusting smear he tried to paint a fellow boxer with or that, incredibly, a whole raft of knowledgeable boxing fans bought it. Here they were, most of them front and centre in the 'PED-quiao' :shit: arguments, declaring Floyd the saviour of all things good and virtuous and Manny a cheating bastard simply because Mayweather Jr decided to throw a shitty stick at the man he wanted no part of in the ring. Mayweather has apologists everywhere and especially here, and so they came out in force, throwing around preposterous, presumptious rants around at anyone who dared suggest that Mayweather Jr, who had retired rather than face a raft of hungry, tough welterweights and who had recently told the world that 'legacy don't pay the bills', might just be playing the same old games once more. These people labelled us 'groupies' and 'drug cheat apologists'. They dismissed logical arguments based on innocence and fairness as 'nonsense' and that any legal-based posts had nothing to do with anything, even though a law suit was filed and that there exists a Court of Arbitration for Sport.. They read up on PED's and declared themselves experts. They listened eagerly to men like Victor Conte, one of the most notorious liars in the history of sports, and decided he was suddenly a reliable sort who could provide answers. it got so ridiculous that most people not on Mayweathers side, people like MWS, Genius and Pascal here, just stopped trying to make their point because there was NO winning with the accusers and the apologists, with arguments raging around and around in circles for days at a time until eventually there was nothing much left to say. While all this went on, somewhere, Mayweather Jr would have sat back satisfied, his job being done for him by a strange mixture of well meaning people like our very own brother Kauki for example, who has good intentions at heart, and others who simply refused to believe that Manny was innocent because Floyd had told them so. Then Pacquiao, who has transcended weight classes as if they meant NOTHING and destroyed respected divisional, P4P top-ten fighters as if they were nobodies, unexpectedly throws a spanner in the works by agreeing to whatever Mayweather had asked for and now, at last, Mayweather Jr has been shown indisputably to be utterly and entirely chock full of shit. Suddenly, the silence has been deafening. Credit Mister REED, who now sees what some have seen for several years and publically refutes his past mistakes, but where the FUCK is everyone else? :dunno: You all know who you are- the people who somehow sided with Mayweather Jr, his laughable uncle and Paulie fucking Mallignaggi against a man who had providing marquee fights for the last ten years and has no history whatsoever of not wanting to fight anyone. The people who called that man a cheat without proof or any tangable evidence and who called those who defended that person 'morons', 'idiots' and worse. The same morons and idiots who now are looking at this fiasco with mournful, knowing eyes for exactly what has transpired was what they had forseen and what they were castigated for suggesting was the truth as this entirely pitiful episode started to brew to the boil. Mayweather Jr cares nothing for anyone other than Mayweather Jr. He couldn't give a fuck about boxing or his fellow professionals. He couldn't give a fuck about his fans, or at least those few handfuls who still cling to his exploits from ten years ago. He just cares about himself and his precious '0' and is willing to label a fellow champion with any shit he can so long as he is unwilling to fight him. The fact of the matter is that you were all WRONG on each and every count. Absolutely, entirely and ridiculously WRONG. MTF
Nice summation of recent events MTF. As much as I find PBF's simultaneous avoid & discredit ploy pretty ordinary, I did always suspect (and said), that most of the Holier than thou stuff written here, post-PBF drug allegations, (which I found funny in a weird way), would eventually be looked back on as ridiculous (remember the big head/ puffy eyebrows stuff?).
I wouldnt completely shit on PBF's recent fight record, some of you act as if his fight against Mosley didnt happen....just because it wasnt competitive and Mosley looked as old as he is, it doesn't mean it meant nothing going in. He was applauded by plenty for taking it, and shutting out Mosley still means something in the welterweight division. Of course he should fight Manny now, but I think you can no longer say he's completely avoided the best in the last 5 years.
His BRILLIANCE as a FIGHTER was never questioned, it's his zig zagging outside of the ring and questioned matchups and now outright DUCKING of Manny Pacquaio that frustrates the hardcore fans. It's when he'll look straight into the camera and tell you that he doesn't duck or dogde any opponent that drives people bonkers(not me). Any fan of boxing that says he doesn't care whether Pacquaio-Mayweather never happens is not a REAL fan of the sport.
Sure, you can give Floyd some credit for that win, but it was what most expected it to be: a stay busy affair before the real fight was made. The fact that his most important welterweight matchup of the last five years was against a 39 year old, completely inactive Mosley tells you all you need to know about the guy IMHO. MTF