Does God exist or not?

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  1. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    LOK, I'm no scientist, but the common view from what has been proven so far (from science), is that the universe and time itself has a definite beginning and in fact came out of nothing. They even have put an age on the universe, something like 13.6 billion years old or so. The universe is expanding also.

    I used to be afraid of science, but the more I've looked into Christian apologetics, the more the scientific evidence supports the Judeo/Christian creation sequence. It has really boosted my faith. The precision that the universe operates on really suggests an intelligent designer.
     
  2. Tyler Durden

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    Of course he has to at LEAST fit my standards, how could I be more loving, kind, fair, and LOGICAL than the God you claim to worship? You religious freaks can't argue for shit :lol:
     
  3. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    :rolleyes:Sure you are.
     
  4. Tyler Durden

    Tyler Durden WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    :atu::laughing: understatement of the year!


    And there could be infinite Universes that spring out of "nothing" with frequency. Where does all the matter go that black holes destroy? Remember you can't destroy matter :nono: The fact that you said you are afraid of Science speaks volumes on your ignorance...you only use the parts that fits your view, how scientific :lol:
     
  5. Tyler Durden

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    You admitted I am because you said it is ok for God to do these disgusting things, I disagree.....which puts me above the God YOU worship :partie:
     
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    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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  7. Joe King

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    How can you use infinite numbers when you only have ONE universe to draw comparisons to?? Obviously YOU are no scientist either.:eek:ld:

    I was scared of science, not because it would disprove God, it can't and it won't. I just didn't know how to respond to it and now I am finding out how. The scientific evidence is the same for the atheist and the Christian. It's how you want to interpret it. Present your case and I will present mine.

    As for the black holes, how can you be sure of anything that is occuring billions of miles away? How do you know for sure? You can't. It's impossible. No matter what they say, it is a theory because it can't be repeatable.
     
  8. Tyler Durden

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    There is just too much dumb shit you posted here, I don't even want to break all your stupidity down. Try to keep your assinine comments to a couple few in the future please. You have been competing with Reeds stupidity lately, you have a ways to go but I need to give Kudos when it is due when I see something impressive approaching the pinnacle of stupidity.
     
  9. Joe King

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    You have no problem copying and pasting Bible verses you think "contradict" or that you don't agree with. Yet you can't post someone else's research here. Typical.
     
  10. Tyler Durden

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    I only paste quotes to appease you because you never believe me and demand I do, then you drop it once I do.

    Where and WHAT research am I suppoosed to paste here? It's pretty common knowledge now that black holes exist and you can't destroy matter...also MANY theories involving multiple Universes, what would be the point of pasting these theories? They don't fit into your limited simplified self important mindset :dunno:

    Thanks for the minumum.
     
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    Bullshit, you always change the subject like you are doing now.
     
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    Joe thinks God has paintings of shit far away in the Universe to trick us, it isn't real :atu:

    This is the first case where we can follow the disk's gas in an orderly way down to the immediate environment of the black hole, said co-investigator Dr. Holland Ford of The Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore, Maryland.
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    The disk, possibly a remnant of an ancient galaxy collision, will be swallowed up by the black hole in several billion years.

    STIS measures a velocity of 880,000 miles per hour (400 kilometers per second) within 26 light-years of the galaxy's center, where the black hole dwells. This motion allowed astronomers to calculate that the black hole contains at least 300 million solar masses. (Just as the mass of our Sun can be calculated from the orbital radii and speeds of the planets.)
    This observation demonstrates a direct connection between a supermassive black hole and activity (such as radio emission) in the nucleus of an active galaxy. It also shows that STIS is ideally suited for efficiently conducting a survey of galaxies to determine the distribution of the black holes and their masses.
     
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    If you can look at all the happenings of space and still say that space is eternal and just magically appeared out of nothing, I don't know what to tell you:lol:
     
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    If you can look at all the happenings in space and say we are significant, I don't know what to tell you :lol: You are the one who claims magic :dunno:
     
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    Look at how perfectly this planet is designed, no other planet comes close. Earth is made perfectly for humans to live on. Earth was made for man, not man for earth.
     
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    There is NOTHING perfect about this planet :lol:
     
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    Name one thing.
     
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    The shape
     
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    wow, its shaped just like every other planet, and thats due to gravity, not god

    good try though (well actually no it wasnt but you get the point)
     
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    LOL. It's all magic right... :laughing: It just magically formed after billions of years. It's so precise too.:laughing:
     
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    So it has a perfect radius? :atu: Impossible since God doesn't even know what the fuck precision is when it comes to circumference....
     
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    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    Sure he doesn't.
     
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    Pi is not 3 :atu:
     
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    So what. You just don't want to believe because you like living in sin.
     
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    What do you mean so what? You doubted it, then I corrected you....then you say so what? :lol:

    People who believe in religion and those that don't, there is no correlation to doing wrong. In fact, I would say good deeds and acts from non-believers are more noble and honest than those who are scared into it.:slap:
     
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    So because Pi isn't an "even" 3, God doesn't exist? That's stupid. In fact it proves precision.
     
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    In fact it proves nothing of God in that book. 3.0 is not precision, in fact it is a HUGE error.....when we travelled to heaven and scared God:laughing:(moon landing) we would have never made it with 3.0....not even a prayer would have came close :pray:

    You said God would know precision, the God in your book just got taken out by simple logic :mj:
     

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