Donaire vs Narvaez this weekend

Narvaez has a face you want to punch, but good luck hitting him there.

 

we both had it 11-1

 

mikE had it 115-113 Narvaez... you are just blinded by the HBO lickfest

 

:laughing:

I don't know about you, but I demand a rematch :NotThink:

 

Definitely!!! Who wouldn't want to see this thrilling battle again???:giggle:

 

Narvaez fucked up my predictions with his survival mode tactics. What a schlag.

 

Narvaez is the level of fighter he would point to as evidence for 2011 > 1981

 

did anyone not from Argentina give Narvaez more than 1 round?

 

that midget navarez took there money and ran. This is what I hate about boxing there are no consequence for your actions

 

Indeed

after all, he had zero losses... therefore this is Donaire's finest hour

 

:giggle: That comment tickled my funny bone, causing me to react by bursting out laughing :bears:

 

Nonito/Nishioka, please.

 

oh hell yeah:cheer:

 

Hopefully Donaire and Gamboa will both be at 126 at some point. Live to dream. :bears:

 

Donaire is obviously more comfortable counter punching. Like others have said he should have went to the body more.

 

Damn! Guy was a midget who admitted in the pre-fight meeting he didn't belong in that weight class and was just there to get US exposure and a payday before going back where he came from.

This is why everybody's happy Greenberg is gone from HBO.

For a guy whose halfway to punch drunk, Roy Jones was still smarter the the rest of the HBO crew combined during this fight.

 

donaire did nothing tonight to show me he is a better fighter than martinez right now.

 

I have to admit, it wasn't the sort of performance to write home about on Nonito's behalf.

 

I slept all the way thru it and briefly woke in time to hear Donaire announced as winner on points. :shit:

 

It was frustrating as hell. We're all on here demanding Nonito to attack the body, but he continued to headhunt. Narvaez started well, then we soon gathered he was in it for the long haul.....

 

I also had it 11-1, and damn that was one of the most negative performances I've seen in a while.

Great prediction too mikE, as it happened it did go to the cards and your "better boxer than Nonito" won 0 rounds out of 12 ::

So so performance from Nonito though, why did he nor his trainers decide to focus on the body? If he'd hammered the crafty midget's body, his hands would have dropped sooner or later and Nonito could have taken him out.

 

Nonito was getting warned by the ref every time he went anywhere near the body.

Plus, that midgets elbows were longer then his torso. He had better coverage then Winky Wright. Difference being, Wright stays in the pocket.

Narvaez was there strictly to go the distance and get a payday.

Don't know what Donaire was supposed to do short of not take the fight and wait for somebody his own size to challenge him.

:dunno:

 

Narvaez reminded me of a shot Willie Pep for the brief bit I saw, not in terms of talent or skill- I knew he was undersized and wasn't going to win, but he wasn't going to get beaten up by anybody. Too compact, too negative too savvy. He basically cashed-out, as the BoxNation team suggested he would. He made a lot of money in Argentina, where, according to Steve Lillis, he is regarded as a bigger star than Martinez*
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*Which is fitting, because while Martinez only recently discovered Vials.

 

Hard to look good against a guy who doesn't wanna fight.

That said its time for Nonaire to move up to 122. He looked really big last night.

 

Oh, I've been there, on my own.

 

Well as that famous boxing saying goes "Sometimes the superior boxer loses all 12 rounds"

 

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QPR

 

Citeh and QPR did Liverpool major favours this week.

 

I thought there were quite a few rounds where Narvaez might have nipped it because Donaire landed so little cleanly. I think Narvaez probably looked better on tv than he did in person and that's why he got 12-0'd. It didn't look like a 12-0 fight on tv, but it did look like a fight you don't mind being 12-0 because Narvaez wasn't trying to win.

I hate to say this because I usually argue against it vehemently, but this is one of those fights where 'you have to take the belt away from the champion' probably applies and with a guy fighting like Narvaez did, you don't want to give him any benefit of any doubts.

I think in many rounds Narvaez would win 1. defense 2. clean punches and depending on your definition 3. ring generalship.
He got his ass handed to him in every round for 4. effective aggression because he wasn't aggressive at all.

Either Donaire's speed or power or both or fear or all 3 shut down Narvaez's offense. I think if Narvaez would have tried to win the fight he most likely would have gotten ko'd. I think he fought like a guy who believed that. The round where he put the most hurt on Donaire (4th or 5th) was also the round he absorbed the most hurt and it was a Donaire round, but it also showed that Narvaez was good enough to hit Donaire cleanly when he was trying. Hell, Narvaez was about the only guy landing any clean shots throughout the fight, although most were just jabs. However, that 4th or 5th round also showed that Donaire probably would have won a decision had Narvaez tried to win and been able to take Donaire's punch.

If you are p4p #3 on Donaire, you should be concerned that he wasn't able to vary his attack (as everyone said--more bodywork seemed obvious) and put more hurt on Narvaez. Fighting as a pure counterpuncher makes you vulnerable against certain types of fighters. Also, his reluctance to take some shots in order to land more of his own makes me wonder how tough he is. He may have some Linares in him if the going gets tough.

I think you can rate Donaire anywhere from p4p#3 to quite a bit lower, but he's obviously a talented fighter. Narvaez falls hard from this performance, but it wasn't a disaster or anything, it was just disappointing. I would love for him to get a chip on his shoulder and try to redeem himself by going after other big names at the risk of losing, but I doubt that's in his temperment. It sure wasn't last night.