EDISON MIRANDA vs. DAVID BANKS...

:bears: :bears: :bears:

 

so it doesn't really establish anything. roy used roids and so does everybody else. he didnt have an advantage.

 

Pavlik Beat Miranda by MAKING him Fight Going BACKWARDS...Similar to Mayorga, if U BACK Miranda UP, he's USELESS...

Weight had NATHAN to Do w/Pavlik Whipping Miranda's Ass...


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True..

Regarding last night, Green put it best about Miranda when he said:

"....he was fighting David Banks."

Keep everything in perspective. It was a beautiful KO for Miranda, but it wasn't Kelly Pavlik or Joe Calzaghe in there with him.

 

:nono: Why can't you recognize that Miranda was struggling to make 160? I'm telling you Pavlik is not that good of a fighter. He will be exposed very soon my friend. It was clear that Miranda was exhausted within the first couple rounds against Pavlik. i want to see how he does against a Miranda that does not have to kill himself to make weight.

 

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Yeah the Middleweight champion of the world isn't that good. Let's be realistic about Pavlik-Miranda it's not like pavlik just barely beat the guy he molsted him. A rematch would have Miranda getting KTFO again.

 

Pavlik KOs one-dimensional Miranda again...and again...and again...

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I totaly Disagree! I don't think Pavlik can Ko a Miranda that's not weight drained! We all know how bad a fighter is affected when he is weight drained! You guys have all jumped on the Casper bandwagon. He will be exposed very soon and don't be surprised if you all see Taylor outclass that bum!

 

Bum? So the Middleweight Champ is a bum? :laughing: You show your intelligence more and more with every post. Oh and BTW, I picked Pavlik to beat Miranda and Taylor so I didn't need to hop on any bandwagon. :bears:

BTW-You do realize Pavlik don't make 160 easily himself right? He molsted Miranda and beat Taylor because he is better than them, no excuses needed. Every fighter has an excuse when they lose. At the end of the day what matters is what happens in the ring. What happened in the ring was Pavlik smashed the fuck out of Taylor and Miranda.

 

That is meaningless when the point is whether or not Miranda was weight-drained. I tend to think that Miranda was weakened in that fight BUT I also believe Pavlik would beat him in the rematch and is the better fighter

 

It's not meaningless when Pavlik would be stronger at 168.

 

:nono: Same outcome....Miranda was in perfect condition for the Pavlik fight...

The difference was that Pavlik was NOT holding back..waiting for Miranda to throw first....Pavlik jumped on him and never let him get his shit off...Allan Green did the same thing to him.....however Green did stay on him..

 

so does Pavlik. Pavlik is simply the better fighter.

 

okay, this makes no sense whatsoever.

 

:: So both Taylor and Miranda were weight drained? :dunno: Pavlik is also a big Middleweight...maybe he was also weight drained?

Did Taylor outclass that bum Pavlik in the early rounds of their first fight? NO...

 

Pavlik was NOT holding back....

 

right. Now explaine the Green part.

 

If Peeps would Actually WATCH Pavlik-Miranda Again, it'd B APPARENT that Pavlik Won by FORCING Miranda to Fight BACKWARDS & KEEPING him on the Defensive...

2 Say that Miranda was "Weight Drained" Insinuates that he was IN the Fight or even Competitive, THEN Hit a Wall...But Oh No:nono: , Kelly Pavlik DOMINATED Miranda Virtually EVERY Second of EVERY Round...

He PUNISHED Miranda w/BOTH Hands for 7 Rounds...

Pavlik's TACTICS, AGGRESSION & POWER Beat Miranda, NOT Any "Weight Drained" Bullshit:nono: ...He's just BETTER than Miranda...

& like VAL Said, Pavlik DOESN'T make 160 Easy Himself...Dude's Been Fighting @ 160 for like 7 Years...He was like 18 when he Made his Debut @ 160...His Body has OBVIOUSLY Matured Since Then, yet he's Fighting N the Same Weight Class...

REED Doubts if Pavlik Fights @ 160 PAST 2008 & He'll B As Effective, if Not MORE @ 168...


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At least Miranda DESTROYED his last opponent. More than we can say of Green. Oh wait, I forgot he was seriously ill and has most of his colon removed....and was also sick with flu like symproms for the Miranda fight....and.... Man this dude has more excuses than Holyfield!!

 

well i know for a fact that almost every person my brother trains BJJ with take steroids, and they get tested before competitions and never get caught. These are blue-belt nobodies who beat steroid tests, admittedly so it doesn't take much to wonder how easy it'd be for a world class guy to do so as well.

 

It is very obvious indeed. For some people the truth is just too painful to admit

 

Sex-None really doesn't like Pavlik whatsoever!!::

As for Pascal,he was on Queer Street for a little,but damn his opponant was absolutle shit at trying to finish him off!! His finsihing off skills made Decline's attempt at finishing Peter off look pale in comparison!!

And I think Miranda would Cold Cock Pascal with ease

 

pretty good. ::

 

Taylor had Pavlik KTFO in 2 rounds, In the rematch he will finish what he started! I CANT WAIT. You fuckers will all jump off the bandwagon. Like usual.

 

no...Taylor had Pavlik hurt in the 2nd round...Pavlik had Taylor KTFO in the 7th...:blobbox:

 

We both know Taylor was withing seconds of stopping Pavlik!

 

So? Part of boxing is surviving when you are hurt. Pavlik survived and won. Not bad for a supposed bum.

 

:: Taylor had plenty of time left in that round to stop Pavlik...shit by the end of tht round it was Pavlik who was pushing Taylor back....

 

It's Hopeless:doh: ::

 

so why didn'the stop him? It's not like he knocked him down with 10 second remaining. He has one half of a round to finish him, yet he didn't.