Edwin Valero arrested (again) for beating his wife.

I was going to post something similar to your first paragraph. Knowing the way MANY Central and South American countries work, Valero could very likely eliminate most of his problems with money. In addition, as you stated, if you are of some benefit to Chavez, you can get away with almost anything. Chavez having Valero is almost like Hitler having Schmeling. It's a little trophy piece for the (little) republic.

From the way this sounds, Valero will skate. He will have no penalty whatsoever except "rehab" in Cuba, or maybe some type of probation that looks good but is actually nothing. He is still getting loaded and driving around like an idiot, running from cops and such and they say they are "reconsidering" his rehab? Valero can do whatever he wants. This reminds me of Mayorga down in Nicaragua who I believe was involved in a brutal assault among other things, and that all just "went away".

The only consequence of all of this is that Valero is done as a top fighter, IMO. Probably the best thing that could happen to him is to be sent to a shithole prison and serve a solid year in hell so he can think about what a fuckup he is. Given that he can do whatever he wants and virtually nothing happens to him, he has no chance whatsoever of truly getting rehabilitated in any way. He'll come back from "rehab" and on day one he'll drink until he's half blind and then beat up his girl again. Too bad. He had the potential to be in some great fights.

 

Outlander, that's exactly what I said, that we can forget about him as a top fighter. There's only so much of this lifestyle you can endure before it ruins you as a fighter.

Personally I perceived the alcohol angle as bullshit, as I said earlier in the thread, to evade responsibility. But who knows, maybe he does a bit too much drink and drugs, even if he's not a full blown alcoholic.

In regards to money, surely there's only so much trouble it can get you out of though?

 

Difference is Schmeling wasn't a total cunt.

Chavez will tire of his little toy.

 

Not all alcoholics fit your 'proper alcoholic' category. In fact, I'd guess it's fewer than 5% and maybe fewer than 1%.

I don't think Valero's problem with alcohol has shown to be a hinderance to his performances in the ring. So I don't see where the 'that's the end of him as a top fighter' crap is coming from? Lots of great fighters from the past drank alcohol and did drugs in reckless quantities.

 

A proper alcoholic is someone who is addicted to alcohol, like a smoker is addicted to nicotine, like a junkie is addicted to heroin.

I've known alcholics, they need alcohol every day, they'll usually consume alcohol in the morning too.

If they don't fit that description, they are not an alcoholic, sorry. They just enjoy a drink.

I used to drink pretty much every day, just in the evening, socially. I wasn't an alcoholic, I just enjoyed a drink.

It sounds like Valero just likes getting pissed up, rather than being a proper alcy.

I say his days as a top fighter are over partially because he could get locked up soon, if his behaviour continues and gets more extreme, and regular drinking takes it's toll.

 

Valero seems to always be getting drunk and going behind the wheel, I wonder if his motorcycle accident was when he was drunk. He might be another Harry Simon or Diego Corrales (he already is in terms of his drunken domestic abuse).

 

An alcoholic is someone who cannot control their drinking once they start. Potentially, someone who gets paralytic every Christmas Day because thats the only day they drink, is an alcoholic.

 

An alcoholic is someone who is addicted to alcohol. Someone who gets pissed up to their eyeballs every Christmas is not an alcoholic, they are a binge drinker.

An alcoholic can't go 364 days without a drink, an alcoholic is compelled to drink everyday, that's what an addiction is.

If someone injects themselves with an ounce of scag every year, they are not a junkie. A junkie is someone who is addicted to the drug and needs to consume it everyday, just like an alcoholic is someone who is addicted to their drug and needs a drink everyday.

 

I am addicted to tea, in that I need to drink it every day, or I get into a bad humour.

However, when I drink it, I can do so in moderation. There is no set amount I do or dont need....I just need some.

Alcoholism can exist in the absence of a physical addiction to alcohol. I promise you.

Most coke heads dont have a physical addiction to nose candy. But once they start snorting, they can't stop.

 

Yep.

There's a difference between someone who can't handle the effects of a drug and those who require it 24/7.

Although there is certainly some crossover

 

An alcoholic can never be someone who controls their drinking. Ever.

Once a drink crosses their lips, that's it, they are down for the day.

On the other hand, they can go days on end without touching it. But once they do.....

Think about it.....Alcoholics Anonymous is full of people who have not touched a drink for days, weeks, months and even years.

And all of them are alcoholics.

 

Irish, you like tea.

 

They are people who have a bit of a drink problem, but not alcoholics.

Cocaine is different in that it's not physically addictive, but for whatever reason, it's incredibly moorish. I don't even like coke, but if I do 1 line of coke, I'll snort the whole bag the same night, you just can't help it. Not only am I not a coke head, I don't even like the drug, it's a wanker's drug and I don't even like the feeling.

Nicotine, alcohol and scag are physically addictive. If you're a proper addict, you're going to be compelled to feed your habit every single day.

Taken from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addiction