Exactly how bad of an interpreter is Ray Torres?

The problem with Torres aside from his annoying tone of voice is that he is fucking lazy when translating. For Example:

If a trainer tells his fighter to set up the jab, follow with a hook and work the body, all Torres will say is the last part. He would say: Hit him low! Hit him low! YOu have to hit him Low!:laughing:

The guy has been around boxing too long not to know how to properly translate a hook or uppercut.

Alot of the times he sounds like he is making stuff as he is talking. I can hear the corner say something and in my mind I know exactly what a good translation would sound like and Torres will try to translate it and half way he'll just change it to something that sounds like it. :laughing:

I've had other spanish speaking friends and family members watch fights with me and they have the same reaction to Torres. Some think he doesn't know how to translate. I think they guy has been around long enough not to know and is just fucking lazy.

Some times he is not even close to what the fighter is saying. Sometimes the HBO crew wonders why the corner is saying certaing things to the fighter but Torres translates about half of what is said or less at a time. :doh:

 

That is correct. what Mayorga said was :"el pelo de ese negro es durisimo" which means that black guy's hair is rough. but when he said it, it also sounded like "Ese negro pega durisimo" which means that black guy hits hard. :laughing:

Torres was fucking up at that post fight interview when Mayorga was talking shit about Forrest. :doh:


But as annoying as Torres is I think Luis de Cubas who manages and translates for Casamayor is worst. That dude adds alot of shit to what Casamayor says. Joel usually talks shit about everyone but that fool takes it to another level. He is just a clown.

 

the times that I drag my fiance to watch she says the same thing. And I took enough spanish to know the difference between Torres censoring cuss words, and just making fucking shit up. I think its funny as fuck how people who actually speak spanish perceive him,...its unanimous laughter

 

As if cubans don't already do enough to butcher spanish::

 

seriously! Understanding Tito wasn't that easy but Joel talks even faster. But that guy Cubas is an ass clown. he'll start translating something for Joel and half way he'll add more shit he makes up as he goes along.

Kind of like what Kunningham does for Cory Spinks.

 

Dude, I am convinced Casamayor doesn't even speak Spanish. I cannot understand a fucking word he says. Tito was difficult as well. I have trouble with Carribean Dialects because I am used to the laconic Mexican Spanish.

Wlad Guerrero is no easy time either. He just did an interview in Sport's cliches and I barely got a word.


I agree with you about Torres. I can't think of anything more boring than translating the shit that comes out of athletes or trainers mouths. I notice he usually tranlates the last 2 or 3 lines and might ignore the forst 2 or 3 as well.


I understand American Spanish Speakers, North or South and Spanish Spanish speakers, but People from the DR, Cuba and Puerto Rico speak Spanish in a crazy manner.


I just don't think he is bad. I used to work with translators and it really is an art. People make it out that he lies and is deceitful. He isn't. I think you nailed it. He is lazy at times.

 

Hopefully Someone can Answer this...

ALOT of Times,when a Spanish Speaking Fighter is Getting a Question TRANSLATED to him,he'll Begin his Response by Saying "Bueno"...

Is the Fighter Telling the Translator he did a "Good" Job,is he Thanking him or what???:dunno: ...

Tito Trinindad Almost Always Did this...


REED

 

nah.. it's more like just sayin''

Yeah.. yeah..

or "ok.. ok"

and then your awnser

 

It's a filler word, Reed. In English, people say, uhm, alot or Zab Judah says "you know what I'm saying." It is just to open the sentence. Bueno means good usually, but in this case it is just a filler word.

 

:bears:

"nah mean?" "nah mean"?

 

This is a filler word up front. I tend to say um OR AH. Like a waitress says do you want White or wheat bread, I say uh..wheat. I know what I want and I could just say wheat but a sound comes out first. I also say man allot. You know, man. Ok, man.

Exactly though, "nah mean" is common. Some people say "Yo."

 

I know Ike.. good explaination though..

I just love when guys say "Naah Mean?" after like every sentence ::
that or "no what I'm sayin"

LL cool J is like that.. every second is Nah mean and then licks his lips..

 

Ah,OK...

Sorta like how Floyd Begins EVERY Fucking Sentence by Saying "Like I Said Before" or like Roy Says "However":: ...



REED

 

::

 

REED Thought Zab's "Filler Word" was "Brooklyn"...


REED::

 

:bears: :bears:

 

The problem with Tito is his whole dialogue was filler. Honestly,I admit that Puerto Rican Spanish is hard for me to understand, but Tito basically said the same shit ever time.

I want to thank Don King the best promoter in the world.

I love PuertoRico, Puerto Rico, Puerto Rico.

In press conferences, my power is great, you will feel my power.


Tito always seemed basically retarded to me and he fought like a retard as well.

 

No Bullshit...

REED has Heard Floyd Answer the FIRST Question Posed to him w/that Verbal Crutch of his...

"Like I Said Before"...

REED was Thinking,"Damn Dog,U didn't Say ANYTHING Before"...


REED::

 

Zab broke the Guiness Book of World Records for filler words in an average sentence. He has several. Yo, Brooklyn, nah mean, nah what I saying, nah what I am talkin about, etc. Zab shits on Noam Chomsky's theory that human beings are hard wired for language. As far as I know, Zab has yet to learn one.

 

LOL!!!

"Like I said"

 

It actually means "Well" the way they use it.

As in:

Question: How did you feel about your performance?

Answer: Bueno, yo...
(translation, "Well, I ...")

You're correct that it is a filler word, though.

 

LOL!
Oh shit this made me laugh!

for real, Zab can talk for 10 mins without saying a dam thing! ::

Brooklyn, nah mean, like I said, nah'm sayin? Brooklyn represent nah mean, This is brooklyn.. nah'm sayin? Nah mean?::

 

Zab had a gem of a quote a couple of weeks ago at the Memphis luncheon.

"I'm like an '07 Diablo. and Miguel is... is... is... he a Toyota Civic."

Nobody had the heart to tell him that Civics are made by Honda ::

 

It does mean that too. I was going to write that, but I made a judgement call because Tito uses it as a filler word.However, I am convinced that Tito uses all words like filler words. He could talk for 10 minutes and say nothing. Same with Fernando Vargas. If you deleted the word Mexican or anything related to Mexican in his transcripts it would read.


"I'm..because...fight like wild...because......and I am.....therefore a.....would always beat a fake.....because I am so ......



God, I hope someday writers refuse to interview athletes. Less than 1% of them say anything ever.

 

::


replace Vargas with Holyfield and replace "Mexican" with anything about Jesus or God ::

if you took Jesus, God, and Holy spirit out of Holy's words he couldn't talk


-Ferdie- what was it that you DID in there to overcome Mike's power...??

Holy-it's not what I did.. it's that the holy spirit is in me and Jesus alive..

you can choose againest me anytime but you cant choose againest god ::

 

:: :: Exactly. I am convinced you have to be nearly retarded to be an elite athlete. Honestly, athletes should be seen and not heard like a hot chick. If a chick is hot, I don't care if she is a US chess champion. Can I smash her vagina or not? That is all that matters. There a few athletes who entertain with their words.

Mike Tyson
Mayorga
Hopkins(more in a Petertg type of way. Hopkins is a lunatic, imo.)
Charles Barkley

the exception rather than the rule. Holyfield is boring has hell. Jebus...you can't pick against Jebuz, my lords is better din his.....etc.

 

"Supah,Baby"

 

well... we differ in our preferences there Brother Ike,

IMO Holy is every bit as funny as Mike.

The Jesus this and that is just classic.. I love how frustrated Ferdie got that time..
Ferdie said "OK! ASIDE from Religion... ASIDE From that.. beacause hopefully God is with all of us... but let's talk BOXING... Tell me what it was in BOXING TERMS you did in there"


Holy- It's not what "I" did, it's that the HOly spirit is in me and JEsus is alive..

at this point Ferdie just walked away in disgust.. :: :: :: ::

 

"Like I said before" ::

As for Judah, I have to admit I find his interviews funny.

Judah is a complete and utter dick, and seemingly a bit retarded too, but for some reason I can't hate the guy.

I actually somehow prefer him to floyd. And it's not because he is Jew.

 

I remember a post fight interview years ago, I can't remember the fighter but I'm thinking Humberto Gonzalez, anyway, the translater would say "I'm going to ask him..." and say the question in English, then he would ask the question in Spanish. The problem was, when the fighter would answer in Spanish, he never bothered to translate the answers back into English, he'd just go on to the next question.

Anyone remember what fight I'm talking about?

TFK