Felix Trinidad Jr vs Roy Jones Jr: News and Video thread!

Yeah, but Trinidad sucks, and he was never any good above 154. This fight's at 170, not pound-for-pound or prime-vs.-prime. Jones is going to win. Period.

 

Roy might be drained @ 170. He hasn't been that low for a fight since 1996.

Other than that possibility, I see the chances for Tito being extremely slim.

Tito hasn't fought in nearly 3 years, and he looked terrible the last time out. Roy at least has been semi-active, and beating fringe contenders. Fringe light-heavyweight contenders, while Tito has never fought above 160 in his career.

Tito has always been vulnerable to a straight right hand. Back in his prime, he made the predominantly left-hand happy Oscar De La Hoya look very good with his straight right. Carr and Reid dropped him with it, Hopkins had a field day with it, hell even Cherifi landed a couple of nice rights, one that stopped Tito's attack when he had just dropped Cherifi. Roy's right hand is still very fast, and he's a bigger guy than anyone who has hit Tito with that punch before.

 

AND FASTER

 

:nono: Why was he never good above 154? Becuause he lost to one of the greatest Middlweights of all-time Bernard Hopkins? Because he lost to a p4p fighter in Wright? Please explain!

 

Good post! I can respect this! :bears:

 

Because he's only won three fights above 154:

• William Joppy: Faded champion who looked like shit in every performance he had around the same time.
• Hacine Cherfi: Tomato can who lost every meaningful fight he had except for that one time the judges stole one for him.
• Ricardo Mayorga: Fading former welterweight champion. Shouldn't really count as a "middleweight" win for Trinifag.

Now, how in your pathetic little mind does that add up to someone who can beat Roy Jones at 170?

 

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How does his opinion make him have a "Pathetic little mind" ? :eeeek:

 

Because they don't share the same views?:dunno:

 

He's stupid and closed-minded. His opinion is a result of that, not the cause of that, of course.

 

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I love this forum

 

They both are. Absolutely shot to pieces.

This fight is a total parcel of balls, it really is. And the result, whatever it is, will settle nothing, because both fighters are so past their respective primes that the result will be almost utterly meaningless. Even if Jones absolutely kills Tito, which I suppose is the most likely result of this 'fight', it means almost nothing, other than:

Completely shot RJJ> Completely shot Trinidad :doh:

When you think of how good 2007 was in terms of PRIME fighters fighting other PRIME fighters, current P4P fighters facing one another and guys trying to unify/clean out divisions, I think it kind of sad that this fight is even taking place. I mean, seriously, how much more $$$ can either of these guys need right now? :dunno:

I expect RJJ to win easily, because at least he is fighting near enough the weight he fought at during his prime, and I don't think Trinidad has enough power to trouble the main foundation of RJJ's demise: the weakening (dramatically) of his chin and the increased abilities of his opponents to find it.

But why people care is beyond me...

MTF

 

MTF my boy..

you are right that they are both shot.. but it's still exciting!!

I think Shot Roy still will look great and SODOMIZE shot Tito

 

This fight has little to no relevance in the grand scheme of things, which makes it hard to get excited for imo. Not to mention nuthuggers like Hex will spew rubbish for weeks after the fight.

 

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For once LOK, I agree with you... :eeeek: ::

 

Roy's at least been semi-active and beating fringe contenders at light heavyweight. That's much better work of late than Trinidad, who's been out since May 2005, and never above 160.

 

Trinidad: Roy can't keep promise!
By Karl Freitag
Ring legend Felix Trinidad isn't too concerned about the pledge of Roy Jones Jr. to knock him out. "It's a promise he will not be able to fulfill," said Tito today. "It's just one more fighter to say something like that. I don't care about what he's saying right now." Tito said he expects to stop Roy but will be ready to go twelve rounds. "I think that I am a better fighter and I will show him that on January 19th."
Wednesday, January 9 2008

 

^^^I love Tito but he is so delusional. I don't see how he comes up with this vision of beating Roy Jones after being HUMILIATED at 160 by Winky Wright and then retiring for 2 years and putting on lots of weight.


The only thing that can prevent Roy from KOing Tito would be his own fear of getting his own chin checked.

 

He's not delusional. You have to convince yourself that you're going to win, or you never will.

 

[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]It is rare to see the always cool Felix Trinidad rattled at something his opponent said, but there was little question after today’s phone teleconference that he was not pleased with Roy Jones Jr.’s promise of a knockout and a prediction of a fourth round KO in their upcoming fight at Madison Square Gardens.

“It is a promise that will not be fulfilled.â€￾ Trinidad responded icily. Although Trinidad stated that he didn’t care what Jones said, there was little question that Trinidad took umbrage at all of Jones’ talk of dominance.

“At the press conference he said he was going to KO me in four rounds,â€￾ Trinidad said through his translator, Jose “Pepeâ€￾ Ramos, “I said that would be impossible since I was going to knock him out in the second.â€￾

With two fighters with some of the most dramatic knockouts of the decade to their credit promising knockout victory’s, it seems almost a certainty that their will be fireworks on January 19th. But many insiders feel that a slugfest might just benefit the smaller Trinidad, who has show trouble with boxers in the past, and who has never failed to capitalize when he stepped in the ring with an opponent whose chin was suspect.

“Every weakness he will bring into the fight, I will discover in the ring and take advantage of,â€￾ Trinidad commented, “He has trouble with punchers, and I can punch.â€￾

For fans of the Puerto Rican superstar, it already appears that the fire that was missing in his last fight, a lopsided decision loss to Winky Wright, has resurfaced. He spoke with confidence and a renewed appreciation for the sport. When asked what prompted him to comeback he responded, “First I had to consider the fans, they were always calling on me to fight again wherever I went, then there was my promoter Don King, who was pursuing me and trying to get me to comeback. Finally there was myself.â€￾

Although many insiders wonder if Trinidad’s renowned power would make the jump up to 170-pounds, he promises that fans will see the Trinidad of old, devastating punching power and all.

“I feel that I still have my punching power (at this weight), and that is something you never lose. People will see (on January 19th) that I still have the power.â€￾
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:doh: it's not the "punching power" it's can you deliver it....Roy will not stand infront of Trinidad and let him land...the only punch that Trinidad could possibly hurt Jones will be with the left hook...Jones will see it coming and do whatever to avoid it..

 

If Tito gets KTFO it's his fault! He's the dumb ass that came out retirement. He better be ready. I hope he's not fucking around.

 

Of course he will be READY....best condition of his life...best training camp...all that bullshit...but it won't make a difference...he cannot win....IMHO...

 

Tito is going to be Laid the F out

 

Fuck it! Let him get Flattened! He wanted this fight so lets see what happenes!

 

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I agree..

it's silly to think he'll be "in the best condition of his life"

he is about 30lbs north of that.. Nor is Roy in the best condition but Roy is going to Flatten Tito

 

Very true .... If Tito had any sense , he would have set a fight with Pavlik.
I would actually give him a chance there ...

 

Pavlik would K him the F out!!

IMO right now.. he has ZERO chance with either.. but I almost give him more a chance with Roy.. but that is still no chance