Felix Trinidad (prime) vs Antonio Margarito @147 who wins?

The real question is will it be a back first KO or a face first KO. I say face first.

 

Margirito's got a good chance. You could watch Mosley at half speed and he'd be faster than Tito.

 

And Mosley doesn't have half the punch Tito had.....and at the end of the day it's what Margarito doesn't have.....DEFENSE.....you can't block Trinidad punches w/ your FACE....

 

Disagreed. What really hurt Margarito was that he couldn't see Mosley's punches. Tito punched harder but his shots were not as damaging against this particular type of opponent. Compare the effectiveness of his punches against Mayorga and then see what Oscar did to Mayorga and you see the difference

 

Mosley beat Tony by never letting him into the fight, IMO. Every time Tony moved to set his feet & establish range Mosley countered sharply and was either back out of range or pushing Tony back off of balance. The psychological toll that took played as much part in the stoppage as the punches. Tito actually has quite a similar style to Shane in that he's a counter puncher who tends to move forward more than backwards, but he just doesn't have the speed to implement that strategy anywhere near as emphatically.

So Tony would be in the fight, he wouldn't be shipping so many shots and he wouldn't be getting as disheartened and exhausted as he was by the end of the Mosley fight. It wasn't power that put Tony down it was the physical & MENTAL exhaustion & frustration of never being able to get into the fight. I'd go as far as saying Tito's power proves of little use in this one and he ends up having to fall back on his neglected boxing skills & win on the backfoot.

 

Tito would put him to sleep..

not like throw in the towel.. stopping..

not like being battered on the ropes stopping

not like a get up, fall down, get up, (Zab) stopping..

an OUT COLD (OH SHIT GET THE MEDICS) stopping

 

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LOL. Tito was plenty quick enough with his punches to affect Phony. Tito's speed is being underrated big time. Vargas had too much trouble with Tito's handpeed, and Vargas was FAR quicker and more technically skilled than Phony. Margarita would be walking into hooks he doesnt see coming, and he'd get KTFO. Simple as that. Doesnt matter how tough is, if you walk into enough of a prime Tito's shots... you get KTFO. And Tony would be an incredibly easy target for Tito to find.

Its a stylistic mismatch in favor of Tito.

 

Tito is faster than Tony. That's why he'd win. But he isn't fast enough to totally take Tony out of the fight. So he wouldn't win by knock out. Power didn't knock Tony out Saturday, mental and physical exhaustion did. Tony would be in the fight against Tito, enough to keep him honest and enough so that he wouldn't ship nearly the same volume of shots he did vs Mosley.

 

very astute. I agree with this.

There are dozens of examples of similar things in boxing history.

 

Who said Tony can ONLY be beat by speed? He's NEVER faced a puncher on the level of Tito(and no... Cotto, and Cintron dont come close). Its pretty simple. Tony is very hittable, and has a hard, but not granite chin, and Tito was one of the most devestating welterweight punchers ever, and EXTREMELY accurate. That alone translates into one outcome.. Tito by violent stoppage.

 

Look Trinidad will brutally KO Margarito.....will Trinidad win every round? NO..NEVER even in giving out brutal beating Trinidad did not win every single round...


IT will be back-and-forth fight but Margarito taking a beating in the process....


Trinidad would KO Margarito...and the cards would be 5-2....4-3 at the time of the stoppage....

 

Dude, lets not get carried away with Tito... Tito was also VERY hittable and he never faced a Welterweight as big and strong as Margarito and he also didn't have the world's greatest chin. I think he wins, maybe by late stoppage, but losing to Mosley doesnt suddenly make Margarito into Maurice Blocker... Tommy Hearns hit Iran Barkley with bomb after bomb for three rounds and couldn't put him down, he brutalized him to the body and still Iran stood... yet Nigel Benn, a deeply flawed but powerful puncher, stopped Barkley in a round... styles have a lot to do with it... Like Hut*Hut pointed out, it was Mosley's SPEED that was the main culprit in Margarito's demise, he was hit with a lot of shots he didn't see coming... Trinidad didnt have that kind of speed, nor did he have Mosley' excellent chin... He may eventually stop Margarito, but in no way is it as one-sided as what we saw on Saturday night

 

You can't go toe to toe with Tito and win. I can't see Margarito lasting more than 8 rounds. He will get brutally knocked the fuck out. If you think the Campus ko was brutal this would have been possibly worst. Tito may not have had the speed Mosley has but his left hook was very fast. Tito was also a monster 2 fisted puncher. There would have been punches landing from all angles on the human punching bag.

 

Its amazing how in one fight this guy goes from a champ who outwilled and destroyed a pretty damn good fighter in Miguel Cotto to "The Human Punching Bag"

Antonio Margarito isn't Tex Cobb

You can't go toe-to-toe with Tito and win? What serious hitter did Tito go toe-to-toe with? You make him sound like Dick Tiger or Carmen Basilio... Yory Boy Campas was shit... he was a quitter, over and over again... stopping him (after visiting the canvas courtesy of the weakest left hook ever landed) isn't that big of a deal. Margarito was a vastly superior fighter to Yory Boy Campas... With Tito's chin, there are plenty of guys over the years who I bet could go toe-to-toe with him and win... Margarito was blitzed by SPEED on Saturday night... Mosley's great handspeed was what did him in the most. Trinidad was a great puncher, but he would not do what Mosley did. I think he'd win but he'd have a tougher time of it than Shane did, and he'd have to get up off the floor to do it

 

lalalalala..i'm not listening....

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LMAO, you ricans are nuts::

you the man, Illu

 

Tito was pretty quick himself as a welterweight. His punches were short, straight, and well timed. And he was also brutal going to the body. This wasn't seen so much in his last fights as a welter when he started falling in love with his power but in the early part of his career there you do see that.


All that said, styles here indicate a competitive fight in the early goings with Margarito probably flooring Tito in the 2nd round or 3rd round, and then Tito getting up and taking over. I think Tito stops him around the 8th round if not earlier. I just don't think Margarito can last into the championship rounds if he's getting hit with 50 % of Trinidad's shots flush in the face over and over again.