FIGHT OF THE YEAR- 2007???

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  1. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    I agree largely, but who is to say that the WBC Middlweight title is more "Significant" than a fight for all the marbles between 2 dominant undefeated fighters only 1 division up?? Consider that Kessler and Cal and Pavlik could be doing some business in the future, and you may see my point.
     
  2. Der Tiger

    Der Tiger Leap-Amateur

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    Middleweight will always be one of the 8 traditional weight classes, it adds that little bit extra, SMW doesn't have the history on its side yet. it was also more dramatic than Calzaghe-Kessler although I enjoyed both equally.

    Forgot to add Codrington-Bika in the also-rans
     
  3. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    a fortiori......it does have history now...and could have even more when Calzaghe beats Pavlik!!
     
  4. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    True 'nuff.

    But that goes back to my point that people simply haven't been paying much attention regarding Cotto.

    As far back as the Brown, Bazan and Maussa fights (and hell, even earlier), Cotto has shown this kind of ability - and willingness to mix things up by round.

    Vs. Abdullaev and N'Dou as well.

    I get the flack....and if he were pulling a Trinidad-DLH, would agree. But the dude was landing - and hard and clean. He was there to engage even against the ropes.

    I do, however, agree about the 12th. That I didn't like, definitely.

    Peace.
     
  5. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    Not necessarily more significant....but Pav-Taylor DOES have much more drama, so I can fully understand why it would be ahead.

    Though I agree Calz-Kess is a great (and underrated) bout!

    Peace.
     
  6. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

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    My pick is Pavlik-Taylor but i haven't seen Bika-Codrington.
     
  7. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I don't know if that matters as much these days. I mean, we're coming up on at least the second generation of fans who never knew boxing without a super middleweight division. Plus, that fight was as significant as they come. Calzaghe and Kessler were far and away the best two SMW's on the planet, to where the next guy should be ranked #4.

    Pavlik-Taylor was for the MW title, yes a belt with deeper tradition. But going in, Taylor was the champ (disputed or otherwise), and Pavlik was among the top contenders (you can still make an outside case for Abraham). Taylor was either in the bottom half of P4P lists, or not listed at all, while Pavlik wasn't even on the P4P radar. Whereas Calzaghe and Kessler were somewhere in the Top 15 of just about any plausible list.

    Don't get me wrong, Pavlik-Taylor is MUCH closer to being Fight of the Year than Calzaghe-Kessler. But if all things were equal, I wouldn't give a MW fight the benefit of the doubt solely based on deeper history.
     
  8. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    Bika-Codrington, although very exciting, was semi one-sided IMO. Although Bika looked vulnerable at many points, he always looked like the guy that was going to win it, IMO.

    Pavlik-Taylor was an evenly matched affair with good action and tremendous skills on display. Both men were hurt badly and a definitive finish. PLUS...the stakes were HIGH!!

    Hands down over Bika-Codrington.


    But....don't sleep on Mayweather-Hatton..........
     
  9. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    quite a daunting task, considering how easy it's been to fall asleep during Floyd's past few fights. :cool:
     
  10. ArturoGatti

    ArturoGatti WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    that fight will be a disaster.
     
  11. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    :lol:

    Mayweather- De La Hoya was intriguing and had its fair share of action. Mayweather-Baldomir was boring, but not because of Floyd, because of Baldomir. Why should Floyd make an exciting fight out of an outmatched opponent? That would be stupid.

    Mayweather-Judah was exciting.
    Mayweather-Mitchell was an exciting beatdown
    Mayweather-Gatti was an exciting beatdown

    He had one relatively unexciting fight in his last 4, big deal!!
     
  12. steve_dave

    steve_dave Hard As Fuck

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    Mayweather/De La Hoya was VERY boring.
     
  13. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    No it didn't. GLH plodding forward, throwing Tin Man-like punches is not "action." The fight was garbage, perhaps marginally surpassing my expectations, as I expected to be asleep by the 5th round.

    Um... to prevent people from leaving the arena?

    Was a good fight. Exciting in terms of your average Floyd fight. But in the grand scheme of things a good fight. Cotto-Judah was far more exciting, and just as one-sided, if not more so.
    agREED... though both fights contradict your statement re: the Baldomir fight.

    Two - out of his last two. And there's nothing relative about it. Both were painful to watch the first time, never mind dare watching a replay.
     
  14. TKO

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    Maybe little Floyd should have participated
     
  15. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Yup.:clap:...the significance of the fight being amplified thru the fact that fights between Kessler/Taylor/Pavlik or Joe/Taylor/Pavlik are quite likely.
     
  16. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

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    :lol:

    You just don't like Floyd because Vivian Harris told you not to! :tease:
     
  17. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Das Floyd Gay-Wedda to you, ya feel meh? :lol:

    Nah, much like Cotto and Shane, I'm indifferent to Floyd. He's just more of a cunt than the other two (and most others, for that matter).
     
  18. ILLUMINATI

    ILLUMINATI Roberto Duran

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    Cotto vs. Mosley...
     
  19. Octopus

    Octopus Undisputed Champion

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    We've had some great fights this year,but really none that is really considered a FOTY type fight!!

    I guess the closest will be Vasquez-Marquez II for entertainment value.

    Great year for boxing. A kind of year boxing needed though!!
     
  20. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    Damn.....Pavlik-Taylor, Vazquez-Marquez II, Bika-Codrington....

    What exactly are you looking for?
     
  21. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

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    Vazquez/Marquez 2 for my taste! thos guys traded some brutal shots :slap:


    For those thinking the Contender final won't win just remember that Ward/Burton won fight of the year before fighting on ESPN. this was way before "the contender" which is now more mainstream.
     
  22. Octopus

    Octopus Undisputed Champion

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    I just haven't seen a fight on the same level of excitement ever since Corrales-Castillio.

    And please,Bika-Codrington wasn't even remotley close to being a great fight,let alone being a FOTY type fight. Entertaining "ONE SIDED" fight with two mediocre fighters is all it was.
     
  23. LATIN KING

    LATIN KING Undisputed Champion

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    Why does it matter if the fighters are mediocre or great to begin with.

    I think two mediocre fighters are capable of giving a better fight than two superstars at any given time.:dunno:

    The fight of the year should consist of the actual fight not the status of each fighter going into the fight.
     
  24. Donnybrook

    Donnybrook The Greatest of Are Times

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    You're recent to boxing, aren't you? :lol: :tease:

    A fight like Corrales-Castillo is EXTREMELY RARE. You only get those once every few to very-many years.

    If you hold every single fight/year to that standard, you'll never have an "FOTY worthy" fight.

    Corrales-Castillo wasn't just an FOTY....it was an all-time classic. It transcends typical FOTYs.

    If you read the thread, I actually agree on Bika-Codrington, but I tossed it in because it WAS exciting (if not much else).

    Peace.
     
  25. Jake

    Jake WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    But his point is well taken. Looking at the schedule for the rest of the year, there really don't seem to be any other FOTY candidates, yet most are still undecided with what's been offered so far.

    A FOTY is something ANYONE should be able to look at and say "Damn, that was the best fight I've seen in a long time."

    For that reason, I think Pavlik-Taylor will get it (even though I thought Vazquez-Marquez II was a little better). But still, both fights are well in the books, yet it's still up for debate.
     
  26. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    but be honest, what was more exciting? watching pavlik-taylor live or vasquez-marquez II on the replay telecast (since you were in chicago at the time)? :lol:
     
  27. Father of Muzse

    Father of Muzse Undisputed Champion

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    The only exciting fight in that list was the Gatti beatdown. Floyd stood in and handled Gatti every second of every round.

    The Judah fight wasn't exciting. Floyd basically pushed straight rights and fell in against Judah. The only excitement came in the first 4 rounds when Judah arguably won three rounds and the 10th when the riot happened. Judah's fight with Cotto had more action in the first 5 rounds than Judah's fight with Floyd combined.

    The Mitchell fight wasn't exciting either. Floyd landed a great bodyshot, but other than getting tagged once or twice, there wasn't much drama.

    DLH-Mayweather...pretty much speaks for itself. More posing and punches hitting gloves (meaning Oscar catching Floyd's shots) than anything else.

    Mayweather-Baldomir - a comped house who left three or four rounds early pretty much sums up the lack of excitement.
     
  28. Father of Muzse

    Father of Muzse Undisputed Champion

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    Guess I should have read the entire thread...

    100% agREED.
     
  29. joony

    joony "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    mayweather is exciting when he's in against a guy who can bully him a bit. baldomir is garbage and failed to utilize his size advantage.

    i thought mayweather vs. castillo and chavez were both exciting. his beatdowns on corley, corrales, and gatti were also fun to watch.

    i thought his fight vs. oscar was okay.
     
  30. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

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    It's a Combination of HATE & IGNORANCE that's Leading Some Posters to Act like Floyd is Always "Boring"...

    Floyd had an IMPRESSIVE Run of Entertaining Fights Going Back to the N'Dou Bout Up UNTIL he Faced Baldomir...Like a 6 or 7 Fight STRETCH...How QUICKLY Fans have Forgotten...

    But Now that the Baldomir & DeLa Bouts were LESS than Tantalizing, Everybody Acts like Floyd is ALWAYS "Boring":rolleyes: ...

    It's NO Secret that Floyd WASN'T Allowed to Wear his Preferred Gloves, "Winning"...If/When Floyd CAN Wear those Gloves Again, the "Excitement" will RESURFACE...

    The Hatton Fight WON'T B "Boring":nono: ...


    REED:cool:
     

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