Fighter of the year: Can there be any doubt?

Beating Judah and Mosley is more impressive to you than Beating De La Hoya and Hatton?

 

Floyd should get fighter of the year. If he doesn't he will get robbed like last year.:nono:

 

This is a no brainer. Floyd not only had two big wins; he carried the sport on his back into the mainstream concious again. He got help from his foes but he was the one who was the straw stirring the drink. Time and the Wall Street Journal doing Boxing? And he wins? 2007 FOTY Floyd Mayweather. Period. His impact on the sport in the ring versus the other candidates is a good debate but the out of ring stuff was so big for him that it just overwhelms. Think Clay as FOTY in 63

 

Couldn't have put it better myself...

 

He was robbed? Says who? he beat Baldomir and Judah. If that's fighter of the year that's not saying much.

 

It's funny then that this torch-bearer of the sport now says he's "bored" with boxing and wants to go into semi-retirement.

The person who really re-energized the sport and did the most to help bring it back to prominence it was Oscar De La Hoya when he came back last year and kicked the crap out of Mayorga to set up the biggest money fight in history.

 

He beat Judah and Baldomir who was the linear champion at 147 - that was the fight to make at that weight. Adding a 4th tittle in a 4th division. Not many have done that.

Pacquiao beat 3 guys coming of losses - 2 coming off KOs. Hell Larios was kod in 2 rounds at 122 yet Manny went 12 rounds with him at 130.::

Pacquiao got the FOTY because he such an exciting fighter.

The same stupid reason some considered him pfp over Floyd.:laughing:

It wasn't that long ago that other silly opinion was floating around. :dunno:

 

Mosley, yes.

 

De La Hoya is harder to beat than Mosley, regardless of the fact that Shane has two wins against him.

Vernon forrest would not have dominated Oscar and neither would winky wright have.

ALso...I would actually pick Oscar to beat Cotto.

 

This Oscar De La Hoya really isn't an elite fighter, IMO.

 

What you don't consider here is that Mosley was an active fighter (and at the top of the division at that) which Oscar wasn't

 

looks like there's plenty of doubt.

 

considering floyd moved up in weight to beat oscar and made history by becoming the first 6 division champion WITHOUT a loss was quite an accomplishment. he also broke record for most PPV buys and won the biggest career defining fight of his career from a marketing standpoint.

he followed that up with another win over a big name fighter in a mega bout with mainstream & public appeal and did so in an emphatic manner with a KO.

cotto beat up a guy floyd and baldomir already beat and an old but still serviceable mosley in a tough competitive fight. not as impressive.

i thought the most impressive win this year was done by Calzaghe, but i'd still say floyd gets the vote.

 

Cotto also beat Urkal this year.

If Mayweather doesn't get FOTY then Kelly Pavlik deserves it. 3 incredible fights with 3 great KO'es.

 

Mayweather should get it for ACHIEVEMENT sake. He's now one of a handful of fighters to win legitimate titles in 5 weight divisions, and beat Oscar de La Hoya to do it.

He also became the first man to defeat Ricky Hatton, the TRUE jnr Welterweight, and stopped him no less.

 

Mayweather is simply too insecure in his status, mentally. He's got these little pre-formed excuses as to why he won't fight this guy or that guy, he's promising to retire after every fight, and yet, he continues to claim that nobody is on his level. It simply isn't a coherent picture. And he'll never be the guy that everybody loves until he starts fighting the guys the public wants him to fight.

ODH was a decent fight. And Hatton was okay. But neither of those guys represented his toughest perceived threats at the time - in "his" division.

 

I'd go with Pavlik. If people would vote for Mayweather i can see why, i just think Pavlik deserves it a bit more.

 

2006 wasn't exactly a year of great candidates.

Mayweather beat a top 5 contender in Judah and the linear champ in Baldomir, but Judah was coming off a loss to Baldomir, one of the weaker linear champs in recent memory.

Pacquiao twice KO'd Morales and beat Larios....3 guys all coming off of losses, and one of them jumping 2 divisions.

Klitschko was another candidate, beating Byrd for the IBF belt and undefeated contender Brock.

 

ODH, certainly in YOUR own mind, was the toughest perceived threat for Floyd at the time. You LAUGHED at the notion that Floyd would stand a chance against him...you haven't been that certain regarding Floyd-Margarito.

It's OBVIOUS that Oscar was about the biggest threat that Floyd could have faced given the size advantage and the styles.

Put it this way...after seeing that fight (which I was very nervous about) I have no doubt that Floyd would beat Margarito, Cotto, Cintron...no doubt!

Only Williams...is problematic.

 

Well. Yes. I thought ODH "would" beat PBF. and he almost did. and i think he would've if he hadn't stopped jabbing.

i guess i'm looking for solid reasons as to "why" PBF has not, and apparently never will, take on any of the best guys in his own division.

and i really don't think you can draw any confident conclusions as to Margarito's, Cotto's or Cintron's chances based on ODH's performance. ODH hasn't performed at his best since the first Mosley fight. and his heart is clearly not what it used to be, not to mention his stamina which has always been a weakness of his.

 

you act as if it's that simple to just jab for 12 rounds without getting tired.

 

:clap: :clap:

 

i'm not acting at all. or suggesting anything except that if ODH hadn't abandoned his jab, he would've likely won the fight. where's this, "act" you're referring to?

 

But it is pretty weird to think that a seasoned, clever fighter such as Oscar would simply stop using the jab for no reason

 

I never said he stopped for no reason. And it's very likely he stopped in order to conserve energy. So what does that prove? That PBF beat him because ODH's stamina is horrible? Ok. I can live with that explanation. It doesn't change the fact that something as fundamental as his jab, a weapon that ODH relied on for most of his career to get him through the late rounds, was suddenly absent from his game? So what are you saying? What's your point? Other than to just be argumentative? I'm not sure the distinction you're trying to make here.

 

Floyd had no answer to Oscar's jab. The fact that Oscar completely abandoned it shows he's a shot fighter.

 

Oscar abandoned his jab against Mosley in their first fight also. He was NEVER able to completely sustain the jab for 12 rounds.

 

Maybe I misread you but it sounded as if you were indicating that Oscar's loss was less meaningful if he lost because of stamina, which I strongly disagree with. Stamina is one defining factor in a fight and if a guy beats the other based on it, all good.

It is the same thing I have often said about FLoyd: the fact that he is "naturally" smaller than other welterweights does not count in favor of him. He is a welterweight and is rated as such, if the others of his size are stronger than him, there is no excuse

 

Joe Calzaghe or Kelly Pavlik can be considered nominees for fighter of the year. Floyd doesn't get in because he barely got by a shot inactive Oscar in a Split decision, AND just beat an undersized opponent in Hatton.
Calzaghe's win over Kessler, and Pavlik's brutal KO win over former middleweight king Jermain Taylor are much more impressive.:clap:

 

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