Fighters With Tomato-Can-Filled Records...

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  1. cdogg187

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    i was just about to say jakubowski. i wonder why his brother eric didn't follow a similar path. :lol:

    jorge castro also has over 100 wins with 90 of them or so coming in against bums.
     
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    Didn't one of the Jacubowskis fight Gatti? Maybe that was Eric....
     
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    A lot of no names but he also beat a lot of champions. Two of his sweetest wins were against crackhead, toothless, womanbeater, Roger Mayweather who had taken a liking tocalling himself "The Mexican Assassin." After JCC iced him in two rounds, there were calls for a rematch saying the stoppage was too early. This time, Womanbeater quit on his stool and Chavez taunted him by coming to center ring and waving the "Mexican Assassin" to come and assasinate him.


    Another sweet victory came against Greg Haugen who stated that at least 60 of JCC's his 80+ wins were against Tijuana cab drivers. After Chavez dominated him, toyed with him, and stopped him in five rounds, Chavez said "Those cab drivers were tougher than him!" :lol:
     
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    marty fought chavez and got whupped. last time i saw eric, he got KTFOed by camacho jr on fox sports.
     
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    Thank you. There are some true blue dumbasses on this board.
     
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    I saw Melito's first loss on USA Tuesday night fights. But for some reason I was thinkig it was ancient Mercer. Anyway, fighting in front of the home crowd. He gets the hero's applause, the opponent gets booed like the bad guy. WWE atmosphere. Undefeated record and all that flash came out and got fucking DESTROYED quickly. He got hit with a body shot early and got up sucking wind and looked like he had no ambition to continue. Then they finished the count and he got got immediatedely put through the ropes. Later there were allegations about his 21-0 record being padded through fixed fights. (Not sure if that was ever proven.)
     
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    Eric fought Gatti. I remember after he lost him smiling and talking to his trainer about how good he did still.
     
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    Yes...that is about the size of it. That incorrigible piece of shit, Wally Matthews, tried to make a big deal of it in his NY Daily Post column, where he alleged that ALL white heavyweights, including Golota and the Klitschkos, were in the business of padding their records with stiffs and bums. Worse than that, a guy I have much more respect for, Jack Newfield...was also in on the gig.

    Basically they tried to lump Melito, who was probably being controlled by a betting syndicate, in with the likes of the Klitschkos.

    It was an awkward and clumsy attempt to paint a picture of the good-old-bad-old days of Mob controlled fights, with a healthy dose of White Hoperism, which never fails to sell.

    Melito was a bum being used to make a lot of people a lot of money, but he was about as representative of the mainstream as Eric Esch is/was.

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20011112/newfield/7

    There are still some fixed fights. In August a federal grand jury in Las Vegas indicted "matchmaker" Bobby Mitchell and boxer Thomas Williams for sports bribery and conspiracy. The basic allegation is that Williams took a dive against Richie Melito Jr. in the preliminary match to the Holyfield-Ruiz title fight in August 2000.
    A statement released by the grand jury said, "Beginning around March 1995, Mitchell and others [associated with the boxing business] conspired to fix boxing matches for the purpose of promoting the professional career of Richard Melito Jr."

    In the 1950s, fights were fixed to set up betting coups for the mob. These days fights are fixed to build up the records and reputations of white heavyweights who can't win on their own. Melito is a slow white heavyweight from Queens with a china chin. His father, who manages his son's career, is a former NYPD detective.

    All the dominant fighters since the 1960s have been black or Latino--Ali, Duran, Roy Jones Jr., Leonard, Hagler, Pryor, Bernard Hopkins, Alexis Arguello, Thomas Herns, Chavez, Trinidad, Mosley, De La Hoya, Whitaker, Holmes, Holyfield. This has created a pathetic yearning for a white boxing star among white fans. This tribal inferiority complex is what helped make the Rocky movies a box-office bonanza.


    There is a huge market for this sort of therapeutic racial-revenge fantasy. It was behind the scam that Mitchell and Williams are accused of running. Mitchell, and others around Melito not yet named, believed that if they could inflate Melito's record with arranged wins, he could be maneuvered into a big-money fight as the latest white hope.

    Bobby Mitchell's job is to locate and deliver breathing bodies certain to fall down early. Boxing's bottom-feeders crave predictability. Nobody who saw the way Melito's chin reacted to a real punch wanted their investment jeopardized by an opponent trying to win.


    Mitchell was the "manager" (really the booking agent) for twelve of Melito's opponents who were knocked out. Last year Mitchell gave Wally Matthews and me an astonishingly honest interview about his job as the casting agent for Melito's opponents.

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    Perhaps it is worth bearing in mind that this article was written in 2000, and as such is a full decade off the pace, a decade which has seen no just white fighters but non-American fighters who are not black or latino make a huge impact. Super 6 may well be won by a white guy. Lucian Bute may well beat whoever wins the Super 6. Adamek, tonight, may well beat Chris Arreola, despite being the naturally smaller man. The best Black Heavyweight is a former Cruiserweight. And no, I dont mean Evander Oldyfield. People like Newfield and Matthews need to get with the times.
     
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