thats a constructive criticism, based in merit. Nothing wrong with attacking a guy because you don't like how he fights or what he does in his life. As much as I don't like Roy Jones, I'm not gonna go out of my way to say he's a douchebag as a human being who just needed someone to get in his face and then he'd lose to ordinary championship level guys. Thats a stupid take. Saying, I didn't like how Roy fought just to win when he had so much talent, speaks more about his style and a constructive claim. If I were a faggot I could say something different like "Roy Jones was a disgrace to boxing, he just didn't have the heart to be a real champion like (enter old timer who couldn't beat Roy in 100 tries)" Its a difference in respect.
co sign on Tapia I was a fan of his and found his story rather inspiring but he became something of a joke as the years went on... his bizarre performance against MAB was just pathetic
Typical Jaws, when someone says something you don't agree with...out comes the childish insults, temper tantrums and lies. Slow down there you angry child...did you forget your meds today? Just when I think you've actually matured a little, you end up acting like the immature jerk-off you actually are. I NEVER said the quote you attributed to me regarding Tyson's career. But it's not like the truth ever stops you from running your mouth...no matter what foolishness comes out of it. You, as usual, are inaccurate at best, and a complete liar at worst. But then what do I expect...you don't bother to fact check ANYTHING you subject the forum members to. Is it possible for you EVER to write something that isn't complete crap and just another one of your angry little opinions and/or tirades? And as for the "dumbest take ever"...sorry....you hold that distinction many times over...including the post I am responding to. And frankly...an attitude like yours is part of the reason that immature and spoiled athletes think they can do whatever they want with no consequences. Hey...it's ok to be a violent thug because you are popular, right? It's ok to be someone that no sane person would want his daughter spending time with because you are popular, right? It doesn't matter how badly you treat people, how many laws you break, how much jail time you do...it's all good because you are really popular! And for the record. I love the this sport. Oh, wait...I'm sorry. Only people who like Mike Tyson and are willing to pretend he's just a misunderstood and swell guy can possibly like boxing. You really are pathetic...just really, really pathetic.
Oh, and by the way Jaws... Here is a topic from just a little more than a month ago in which I addressed the topic of the BS quote you made up and attributed to me today. Which is quite a bit different than the LIE about me that you posted. And here is the topic in which it was posted: http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?t=30271 But then again...it's not like you ever let the facts get in the way of one of your temper tantrums. What's the funniest thing about this is that for all of your anger issues and man-crush on Tyson...I have much more of a handle on him as a fighter and his career than you ever will because I see him objectively and you see him through the eyes of a rabid and emotional fan. Just because I think he is quite the douche bag, that DOESN'T mean I think he is anything less than a great fighter...which is what I also said earlier in this topic and which you entirely misrepresented in your response to me. And in case you forgot... From what I see...I used the phrases "great fighter" and "impressive run in the 80's" which is quite a bit different that this crap you attributed to me: So which is it...are you an inaccurate and sloppy writer who doesn't bother to know what he is talking about or someone who would purposely misrepresent the facts in order to "prove a point". BTW...in case you are confused...making stuff up about people is also known as TELLING LIES. And if your argument is based a lie...then you haven't proven your point at all.
Wlad Klitschko, the fact that he's got no inside game, and Manny Stewart refuses to teach him anything about it,..'holding' is now an integral part of his defence,...it's illegal to just wrap your opponent up while they try to get on the inside and fight on even terms. Now..as it is,... why wouldn't Wlad keep winning??...With his long jab, and right hands firing down on his opponent,..the kniocked and lumped up opponent may do the good work to slip past Wlad's straight shots, but just when he's in suitable range to do something,... CLINCH. ....and That's bullshit,... When you fight Wlad, you fight at his distance only, and he'll use illegal measures to keep it that way,... just like Hopkins ,...who controls the distance by backpeddling away from engaging,.. and then hybridizes a timed pot shot with a clinch,.. more or less the same thing, it's illegal measures to gain victory,.. both could have thier illegal plans unravelled if only the fucking rules were ever, ever, enforced.
I liked him at the beginning, but started hating his guts after I read interviews with him. I truly enjoyed when Pacquaio mopped the floor with him in the rematch.
So it's not ok to call Tyson a douche bag, but it IS apparently ok to say you wish Ray Leonard dies of a a testicular tumor http://www.fightbeat.com/forums/showthread.php?p=665179#post665179 Is that some of your "constructive criticism, based on merit"?? So I'm guessing it's not ok to speak badly about fighters that you are a big fan of, but it IS ok to say bad things (like wishing painful death) if you don't like them. OK...got it. I think this might be a bit hypocritical...let me check... <dl><dt class="hwrd">Main Entry:</dt><dd class="hwrd">hyp·o·crite </dd><dt class="pron">Pronunciation:</dt><dd class="pron"> \ˈhi-pə-ˌkrit\ </dd><dt class="func">Function:</dt><dd class="func">noun </dd><dt class="ety">Etymology:</dt><dd class="ety">Middle English ypocrite, from Anglo-French, from Late Latin hypocrita, from Greek hypokritēs actor, hypocrite, from hypokrinesthai</dd><dt class="date">Date:</dt><dd class="date">13th century</dd></dl> 1 : a person who puts on a false appearance of virtue or religion 2: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings — hypocrite adjective Yep....just as I thought...hypocritical. Ray Leonard was a greater fighter than Tyson and did a lot of the same stuff you want to give Tyson all the credit for. He kept folks interested in boxing after Ali and also helped bring mainstream attention to the middle divisions. And fighters like Duran, Hearns & Hagler would have been a whole lot less rich without Leonard. And here you are stating for the world to see that you wish he was dead. Shame on you! I think you really don't like boxing at all!
Ok. I'm done venting. Sorry gang, for interrupting the topic, but I had a couple of things I just felt I needed to say regarding Jaws' personal attack on me and to show how full of crap he is. :: As you were...
Margarito There's an extremely short list of fighters I actually hate, and the "Plastered Bastard" just made it.
I believe you are unlike other Fraud groupies who use the same avenue just to scream the pain of 2006 out of thier system,... rare breed though Erratic, rare breed.
I forgot to mention Holyfield. Just so many things to hate on him for. Bastard making religious delusional millionaire hypocrite who has had 4 hundred title shots and will almost surely get more. I put him the same category as the likes of Paris Hilton and Dennis Rodman. That category being: Just go the fuck away!:flip:
Dunno man....if I sucked at my job, but they kept paying me well, I don't know that I'd quit.:: The only way Evander is going away is if folks stop giving him fights. He's never gonna do it on his own. The bad news is that, outside of Wlad and Vitali, the division is complete ass and he can keep getting title shots, go the distance and not get too roughed up. I think it might take a Cooney-Norton type loss for him to retire. Not that he would want to, but he probably wouldn't have much choice since I can't see him getting another title shot after a 1 minute loss.
Jaws, does it ever frustrate you that boxing is looked at as a joke by most? A sideshow? I'm going to make a statement, I'm interested in your response. I believe the public's current perception of boxing can be be traced directly back to the moment Tyson bit Holyfield's ear.
It was all Holyfield's fault. He made Tyson bite him on the ear. Nothing is ever Tyson's fault. He single handedly saved boxing from becoming mud wrestling. Anyone who thinks anything other than what I do is a stupid dogshit asshole retard. - Jaws1216 (P.S. this is a joke and I am not claiming Jaws actually said this. But you never know...)
And you're right. For all the supposed good Tyson did for boxing...he is equally responsible for boxing being viewed as a sideshow to many folks who are not hardcore boxing fans.
Yeah. That was the invisible barrier between two men punching each other in the face for money, and a complete joke.
I may agree with that to some extent. This angst at BWJ is based on his everloving attacking of Tyson, which is disrespectful historically, and literally. I'm just tired of hearing the running stupid misconception of Tyson as a fighter. This is compounded by attacking him personally. I mean, really you hate a guy that said "I could sell out Madison Square Garden masturbating." He is comedic gold, and really what gets me is this idea that all it takes to beat him is to push back. That is to imply he was soft and cowardly, which is fucking ridiculous. Back to your statement, I think boxing should be viewed that way by people with an outside interest in it, for a plethura of reasons. But among hardcore boxing fans, this crap gets old because we should know better.
Let's not forget that I didn't say these things about Tyson and you are lying when you say I did. And what's the worst part is you actually know this but are acting like you don't. And how about when you wished Ray Leonard was dead? Was that not disrespectful to a great fighter? And will you, as usual when are proven wrong, be avoiding the discussion altogether? That really is kinda weak.
I've done this run around with the horse, CYC, others...I'd spend 3 hours tearing you to shreds, but I have friends AND a life, we know what has been said, and your record of hating on anything post 1985 is equal to my (justified) knocking of the stone age.
You don't have the knowledge to "tear me to shreds" and that's been demonstrated more than once. You just say things that fit whatever rant you are on...no matter how untrue they may be. What "record of hating on things past 1985"? That is, of course, total bullshit. All you are doing (and I am sure you think are being mighty clever) is taking what folks (rightly) say about you and just saying the opposite about me. And it doesn't matter that it's not remotely true because facts and the truth really aren't your thing. You pretty much make up things as you go and then toss in lies and insults as a smoke screen when you get called on your inaccurate statements. Yes...we know what was actually said...which is exactly why you are avoiding discussing it. And I doubt you'd be having this same discussion with Sly because he is as much of a mindless Tyson groupie as you are.