Films that are SHIITE, and no one will change your opinion!

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  1. Hut*Hut

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    Don't bother, it's shit.
     
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    is this a generation thing? you guys born late '80s or early '90s saw too many tarantino clones, and by the time you actually caught up with the original it already seemed too derivative? :eek:ld:
     
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    I just personally hate geek wish fulfillment in movie making. That's usually the common theme in all the movies I can't stand (Matrix, Tarantino, Guy Ritchie, Equilibrium). Tarantino alone in his moms basement with a box of hankies day dreaming all the impossibly cool, laconic things he'd do and say if he were the ultimate fantasy land badass of his dreams. Composed, impactful speeches rolling off his tongue with guns in his face, bullets whizzing past his ears. On go the sunglasses.
    I dunno, it just doesn't really jive with me.
     
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    Ramonza Soliloquies "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    Its hard to find like-minded people in regards to that movie, in my experience.
     
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    r o o s t e r "Twinkle Toes" McJack

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    another manifestation of your conformist, ostracising fetish, stand at the cool end of the playground pointing your finger at any kid that doesn't fit in. :warning:

    on release reservoir dogs and pulp fiction deserved nothing but kudos. genuinely revolutionary.
     
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    Yeah, Reservoir Dogs was awesome. I liked Pulp Fiction a lot too. Both have good re-watch value as well.
     
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    I guess you're being playful here but I'll launch an earnest, insecure defence anyway - one of my favourite ever films is Adaptation where the main character's a hopelessly socially inept, sweaty, neurotic with all the characteristics of avoidant personality disorder. He's one of my favourite characters in any movie.

    Most interesting writing comes when people write about what they know, though, and Tarantino doesn't know tough guy mobsters. He probably never met one. There isn't a single interesting or layered or believable character in any of his films, they're all completely cartoonish. Just vessels for silly, super-pithy dialogue and overblown plots he then chops up and rearranges.

    I suppose it all operate at a different level to realism, kinda subverting it with comic book stylism or whatever.....i dunno. I guess it's really, really clever and it flies over my head, but basically i just don't get 'em. And I don't see how rearranges the order of stories for no particular reason was 'revolutionary' or even progressive. I possibly have a gene or meme missing.:pathetic:
     
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    imo, reservoir dogs, pulp fiction, & jackie brown are very different to kill bill, death proof, and inglorious basterds. the first three have real characters trapped in a stylised movie world; the later three are just a stylised movie world. one of tarantino's innovations was to get people saying real dialogue, and to portray real people undergoing real challenges, albeit against some fantasised movie backgroud. mr orange nervously trying to keep up with a conversation about '70s TV shows, vincent and jules arguing about foot massage v oral sex, the macho, blue-collar butch finding himself unable to stop bullying his girlfriend.

    in those early movies, the dialogue wasn't super-pithy. jules winfield hamming it up in his ezekiel speech was real enough - he's a hardman playing at being in a movie, which feels like it has a ring of truth. but in the later films, there's no pretence; it's just exaggerated movie characters saying exaggerated movie character things, agreed.
     
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    I think that "exaggerated movie characters" going over the top was kind of the whole point of Death Proof and Planet Terror and maybe even Kill Bill.

    I absolutely love Tarantino movies. He emphasizes good dialogue in a time when movies are all about action and special effects. Probably the same reason why I like M. Night Shyamalan so much only with him it's more about the story then it is the dialogue.
     
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    yeah i'm a fan of the later stuff too. but it doesn't match up to reservoir dogs and pulp fiction.
     
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    how could anyone not like pulp fiction? i even thought jackie brown was good. it's actually one of the more underrated films.
     
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    I loved Pulp Fiction. Reservoir Dogs was pretty good, but I didn't like it as much as a lot of other people do. Jackie Brown was alright, a little too leisurely paced for me. The Kill Bill movies were pretty good, but I felt the first movie could've slowed down and had paid more attention to the script, and the sequel could've sped up the pace and had more action.

    Inglorious Basterds was his 2nd best film, IMO.

    I liked True Romance a lot, more than any film he directed except for PF. It was probably better for that type of film that he didn't direct it. He'd probably slow down the pace and have some scene where Clarence rubs Alabama's feet for 10 minutes.
     
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    Someone listed Adaptation as a great film? I HATED that film. Boring as hell.
     
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    That's a critically-acclaimed movie I didn't care much for either.
     
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    Buffalo 66' was kind of shitty and boring.
     
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    Pulp fiction is a classic - fact. I end to agree on Fargo, it's not bad it's just not that good. Jim carey made some decent movies, eternal sunshine, that Philip Morris was entertaining..

    Who is that guy in bad boys with will smith - his movies are shit
     
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    Martin Lawrence.

    House Party is a classic though.
     
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    All Tarantino films... Pulp Fiction is saved somewhat by Samuel L. Jackson's hilarious performance, but the rest are piles of derivative basura that hut summed up nicely

    All "American Pie' films

    All movies by those guys who did "Something about Mary"

    All comic book movies

    Titanic

    All of David Lynch's pretentious bullshit films

    As Nobleart said, any "badass black grandma" movie is automatically a pile of shit

    Any film in which Tom Cruise is the lead

    Inception

    Any film in which George Clooney is a main character (the man can not act at all, though surprisingly his best performance came in the worst Cohen Brothers film in years - Burn After Reading... He ruined "Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?" for me, it could have been great but he ruined it)

    Any film where Bruce Willis is the star... He is a jackass. He is like one of those 47 year old white guys who plays harmonica in a "blues" band on the weekend and has a motorcycle... All of the Die Hard films are unbearable nonsense

    Braveheart... I don't give a shit. Historical dramas are the pits, especially when they are 98% false. Gibson is a transparent ham, I can not stand him in dramas. He is best suited to light slapstick or cheesy action. I liked him best in the ridiculous film "Conspiracy Theory" where he managed to make a Julia Roberts film entertaining for the most part.
     
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    Die Hard is awesome.

    I like Tarantino's movies and there are good comic book movies, like History of Violence.
     
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    never!
     
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    what's wrong with the first Die Hard?
     
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    Scarface: absolutely horrible.
    Lord of the Rings: If it were any less, it would be snails masturbating. Quite frankly the worst movies ever made that were commercially successful.
    The Matrix" awful .Every pseudo-intellect thinks they are profound. In reality, they all suck.
    Napolean Dynamite: Not funny at all.
     
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    I haven't seen The Matrix and have no desire to, but I very much agree with Scarface and LOTR. Utter tripe.
     
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    Fuckin Lebowski. That film is shitful.
     
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    I like the Coen brothers, but yeah, Lebowski is a bunch of try hard crap.
     
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    REED Always Laughs when People Talk about the "Importance" of Pulp Fiction or How 'INNOVATIVE' it is/was:scared:...When REED Hears Tarantino's Name Bandied about as Being Some GREAT Director, REED Gets NAUSEOUS...Dude is EVERY BIT as Pretentious as David Lynch is...

    Pulp Fiction was Basically a PlotLESS Motion Picture COLLAGE w/a Great SCORE Attached...Take a Gallon of SHOCK VALUE, Add in Some Loooooooong Winded DIALOGUE & 322 Completely Unnecessary N-Words, & U've Got Pulp Fiction...

    To this Day, NOBODY Can Tell REED what Pulp Fiction was Even ABOUT???...& the Out of Sequence Shit ISN'T as Clever or Avant-Garde as Tarantino Thinks it Is...



    REED:Lok:
     
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    REED:shit:
     
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    shocked at the hate in here

    starting with cdogg & moving on ..

    Inception is a great film, it tells a great story and has a creative plot

    Blue Velvet was good, though it's probably overrated now

    Braveheart was obviously ridiculously inaccurate from a historical perspective. I still liked it, but don't blame anyone for hating it

    Die Hard was good, mindless fun. It wasn't annoying at least, not that I remember

    Scarface was not only fun, it was a good story. It's become severely underrated as a film, it's popular to shit on it now.

    Big Lebowski is a classic, and fuck anyone who says otherwise

    Pulp Fiction - imo a great movie, but another one of those films that I'm not sure would hold up if I watched it as an adult now (saw it when I was a teenager)

    Matrix - anyone who shits on this movie is a pure hater. my perspective might be flawed because when it came out, I was myself a young teenaged hacker, and the movie absolutely floored me. It was so innovative, creative, and just awesome. I loved it. I came out of the theater convinced that I was The One.

    Napoleon Dynamite was OK, it was basically a 90s nostalgia film. If you weren't an adolescent/teen in the 90s, you aren't going to appreciate it.
     
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    I love Pulp Fiction and I like Tarantino, but he's not the most original guy.

    Scarface is not what I'd call a really GOOD film, but it's entertaining. Pacino is unintentionally hilarious.

    The first Matrix was pretty good, 2nd was okay, 3rd was trash.

    I never got into comic books so when people get excited over comic book movies, it kind of goes over my head. I really liked the last 2 Batman movies though, and I'm a fan of Chris Nolan. Insomnia was overrated as hell though. Didn't get into that at all.
     
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    Road to Perdition was good too.

    I also liked Shogun Assassin, and the demented Oldboy was good too.

    Actually come to think of it, I like a pretty good amount of movies based on comics.
     
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