FINAL PREDICTION: Manny Pacquiao vs. Juan Manuel Marquez

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It's not even that farfetched, that's what's scary.

Dsimon - just read jaws' post above, that's my stance exactly.

I feel Pacman is clearly the better fighter, and I've been a proper Pacman fan for years, but Pacman is soon to be finished as an elite fighter.

He just doesn't have that hunger anymore. That raw hunger/energy/aggression is what has always made pacman such a force, in addition to his supreme natural talents of speed/power/accuracy/timing.

Just compare the 2 barrera fights, it's a different pacman.

More technically proficient indeed, but he just isn't the force he once was. Being the Filipino national hero, and making all this money, and all this fame has gotten to him, and he's lost his hunger. All that crap with wanting to be a politician/lawyer etc too, just shows his heart isn't in it anymore.

And something I'm sure almost everyone can agree on, no matter how talented you are, to be an elite fighter, and campaign at the highest level of the sport, your heart REALLY needs to be in it.

I'm going to give pacman the benefit of the doubt for now though, and pick him by close decision.

Pacman UD then is my official pick.

 

Marquez by decision.

 

Co-Sign.

 

REED is Somewhat SHOCKED by the Amount of "Pac by Decision" Predictions...

REED Picked Manny by KO...Why???...Cause REED Sees NO WAY Manny can OUTPOINT Juan Manuel Marquez...

If this Bout Go's 12, Manny WILL LOSE...


REED

 

he won a decision the first time:dunno:

 

That's probably the best way of looking at it, but i think many people would have thought the same way as Pac-Barrera 2.

I think it's possible that Manny wins by decision, although if it goes 12 it's probably better for Marquez.

 

"D12" Isn't just the Name of Eminem's Rap Group, it's Also the OFFICIAL VERDICT of Pac-Marquez I...


REED:cheer:

 

D12 is also the OFFICIAL VERDICT of Chavez-Whitaker, without a scoring error no less.

Would you hesitate to say Whitaker by decision had there been a rematch?

 

there were more than a few folks who thought marquez had won or deserved the draw. it was a debatable decision.

whitaker-chavez was not.

 

Would U Hesitate to Say that Whittaker was ALOT More DECISIVE Against Chavez, than Manny was against Marquez???:dunno: ...

Manny Arguably LOST to Marquez...w/Out Question, Manny Lost MORE ROUNDS than Marquez Did...NOBODY Would even ATTEMPT to "Go There" about Whittaker-Chavez though...


REED

 

I would say not only is a scoring error responsible responsible for the "D12" but also that its arguable Pac won 7 rounds in the first fight.

Personally i couldnt believe that people thought marquez won, and it is probable for me that manny has success getting Marquez to "go to war" and beating him in that setting

 

Pac UD, because REED thinks it can't happen. It will though. Much improved Pac-man and and older more face first JMM. Manny fights with two hands now, and not only that but Marquez still has no idea how to avoid a stright left hand. Watching his last few fights Marquez is getting hit more often than ever.

 

Who ever think Manny won't be up for this fight is retarded

 

Not according to wRONg King & Double L::

 

Um, no. He wasn't up for the Barrera rematch, and while Marquez did of course give him a tougher fight, the Barrera rematch was at least as big as this.

I just don't think he's up for it full stop.

 

But Look @ it like this, MEX...

Manny DESTROYED Barrera the 1st Time & Probably EXPECTED to Do Likewise N the RE...

w/Marquez, Manny KNOWS he HAD this Guy, Let him OFF the Hook & Had to Settle for a DRAW...Marquez is THE ONLY Unrectified "Blemish" of Manny's Career N the Last SEVERAL Years...

Instead of Preparing N the Phillipines, Manny's Been N the States for a FEW Months Now...That can ONLY B a PLUS...

REED isn't Terribly Concerned w/Manny's Hunger for THIS Fight...It's what he Does AFTER this 1 that Concerns REED...Manny's CLEARLY @ the Stage where he WON'T B "Up" For Every Guy, but Marquez ISN'T 1 of them, N REED's Opinion...He'll have Manny's FULL Attention...



REED

 

Based on what?!! The people that work in the wildcard gym are saying Marquez should be worried for his life.He's had a great and consistent camp which is the complete opposite of his preparation for the second Barrera fight.

 

Pacquiao decision.

 

Pacquiao by UD!!

But have a feeling that Pac Man's heart may not be in the game anymore!!

 

Yep...

& the Thing is, Freddie Roach was FRONT & CENTER Voicing his DISAPPOINTMENT about Manny Training N the Phillipines for the Barrera Fight...Roach was Doing this PRIOR to the Fight...

As Such, REED'll Take Roach @ his WORD about Manny's Preparation for the Marquez RE, Until Proven OTHERWISE...


REED

 

Manny is gonna be ready and is gonna destroy Maricon. If Manny loses I'll say he "wasnt up for the fight"

 

I doubt it. I'm sure there would be some excuses (as there almost always is when a fighter loses) but i don't think "I wasn't up for it" will be one of them.

 

marquez will do a job on pacman as i have been saying all along he has his number plain and simple.

marquez made him look like a bum for 11 rounds of their fight and the draw was generous and considering pacman had a 3 point lead from the start it was impressive from JMM.

Pacman being very overrated here, he was simply outworked and outclassed the last tiem and the same will happen again. Marquez is a master boxer, on a much higher level than pacman. he will be prepared for the straight left and won't be ko'd 3 times.

Marquez was hit on his BROKEN NOSE several times by harder lefts that the ones that dropped him in the first round later on in the fight and he took them well.

He was caught cold, simple as that.

I am lumping on marquez for a handy profit.

Marquez may even stop Pacman.

 

He should be considering the roll Juan is on and considering the heart and skill Juan showed in their first fight.

When a Pac fight is over it's just a case of how many excuses does this guy have this time.

 

Agreed, but I do see Jaws' point...yet those are not comparable fights/situations.

That said, I can clearly see a decision win for Pacquiao being part of the consideration set...

If folks believe Marquez has lost a step or three and Pac has remained stronger/younger/fresher and is more rounded in terms of his punch repertoire - then he could certainly outpoint Marquez even if he can't put him down.

He can certainly land more, cleaner, and win a decision even if JMM manages to stay on his feet.

It's an entirely probably scenario, IMHO.

Peace.

 

He's had a full, long training camp, been in Wildcard since the beginning, is was at 133 lbs. a week ago, says he's hungry, looks hungry - no distractions this training camp...

He's ready and he's up for it.

Peace.

 

OK REED, I'm coming around :bears:

I really do hope I'm wrong. For months now, I've known Manny has past his peak as an elite fighter. Technically he's a better fighter than he ever has been, he is also bigger and stronger. He's not small AT ALL at 130, which is incredible when you think about it, this is a guy who spent half his career at FLYWEIGHT

It's all about fire and desire though.

You know that I really like Pacman, so hopefully I am wrong, and he has more fire left than I've assumed.

 

Mrqz ko11 pac

 

Honestly.. I think you guys picking Marquez to stop Pac could very well be right. I have for a long time thought that Pac man is SOOOO basic. All he has is that straight left.. in earlier fights I keep thinking HOW can people not adjust to that!?? in fact Marquez is a MUCH MUCH better boxer IMO.. I think most agree..

still I'm rooting and thinking Pac is gonna stop him. He dropped him THREE times in one round!@! Pac man IMO is terribly flawed but he has the great equalizer and it comes often, hard, and fast..

 

11-1 again but this time no KD's :bears: !!

I agree Marquez by lopsided dec