FINAL PREDICTION: Shane MOSLEY vs. Miguel COTTO

Why do you think Cotto is underestimating Mosley?

By all accounts, he is in great shape and not having the weight problems he had @ 140.

Cotto may talk a little trash and say "Judah was tougher", but I tend to not take little trash talk like that too seriously.

 

Miguel Cotto: 20
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 11
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Cotto by TKO 12
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
slystaff: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
TRUE BRIT: Cotto by Decision
Andrew: Cotto by UD
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by UD
adamiw: Cotto by SD
Double L: Cotto by UD
Octopus: Cotto by UD
ElTerriblee: Cotto by KO 10
Erratic: Cotto by UD
joony: Cotto by Decision
Mr Doog: Cotto by KO 7
D MAN: Cotto by KO 1
Jake: Cotto by TKO 10
dymipepel: Cotto by KO ??



Shane Mosley: 11
IronDanLaw: Mosley by SD
lb 4 lb: Mosley by KO 8
KaukipRrr: Mosley by KO ??
Ugotabe Kidding: Mosley by KO 10
Beyond the Grave: Mosley by TKO 10
TKO: Mosley by UD
Father of Muzse: Mosley by SD
Kaliber44: Mosley by KO 9
svenottke: Mosley by TKO 11
phonetap: Mosley by TKO 6
puerto rock: Mosley by KO 8

 

Cotto is younger he has more power at 147. Shane doesn't like body shots. Cotts best punches are body shots. Shane is easy to hit and Cotto has hit everybody his accuracy is crazy. Shane will probably give Cotto problems early then once Cottos body shots land Shane will be throwing less and less late.

 

My pick should be OPPOSITE of kauki's, not the same....

 

:doh: duh..

 

I think it starts out a close fight, and could be 3 rounds each after 6, but then Cotto will start to wear down Mosley, and dominate to an easy Unanimous decision win.

There will be no knockdowns.

Scorecards are 117-111 twice, and 115-114 (always one screwy scorecard)


TFK

 

Cotto UD. The fight will be close in the first 6 rounds and then Cotto will start to take over and put some hurt on Mosley but he won't stop him because I think Mosley's too tough and proud to get stopped. BOLD Prediction... : Mosley will announce his retirement after the fight (maybe not immediately but not long after)

 

exactly, I think Cotto is just becoming (a little) more comfortable around the media.

Shane hardly ever talks trash either, yet here he is predicting a knockout as well, and insisting that even Wilfredo Rivera was as strong as Cotto is today.

I seriously doubt either one is underestimating the other. The fact that Cotto actually kept the additional weight off in between training camps tells me he's taking this fight a lot more serious than any other.

I don't even need to spell it out for Shane. He's always fight ready, and I seriously doubt he's ever overlooked anyone. Perhaps aimed a bit too high (like the Winky fight), but never underestimating anyone.

 

opposite of kauaki would be COTTO on POINTS..points being opposite of ko?

 

Cotto by TKO 7

 

Damn, it's already more than 2:1 for Cotto on the boards. Usually the split is in line with the odds - this fight being close to a pick-'em (Cotto 3-2 favorite, Shane a slight 6-5 underdog)

 

?? kauki pick Mosley by ko...the opposite isn't it Cotto by Ko in the same round kauki picks?

 

Shane Mosely UD

 

I think the reason he is saying that is because Cotto has been on record as saying the Judah fight was a tougher fight than the Mosley one will be.

 

isn't that exactly what Erratic responded to, though? :dunno:

I guess this is the part where we let Erratic and Puerto Rock speak for themselves...

 

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"Shane doesn't like body shots." I bet Cotto doesn't either. In fact, who LIKES body shots?

"Shane is easy to hit." Not quite. If he were easy to hit, he wouldn't have lasted as long as he did at such a high level. In fact, Cotto is easier to hit than Shane, even at this point in their careers.

"Cotto has hit everybody his accuracy is crazy." Shane has hit everybody and his accuracy is crazy, too.

This fight is pretty even but I'm taking Shane by decision. What I can't believe is how many people are picking Cotto by KO/TKO. Shane has never been stopped and he's faced bigger punchers than Cotto (Forrest, DLH, Wright, Vargas). I see no reason to believe that Cotto will stop Shane other than wishful thinking.

 

Miguel Cotto: 23
ILLUMINATI: Cotto by TKO 11
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Cotto by TKO 12
Hex-One: Cotto by TKO 11
slystaff: Cotto by TKO 11
mexican wedding shirt: Cotto by UD
TRUE BRIT: Cotto by Decision
Andrew: Cotto by UD
Roll With The Punches: Cotto by UD
Antwuan Maxx: Cotto by KO ??
Xplosive: Cotto by UD
adamiw: Cotto by SD
Double L: Cotto by UD
Octopus: Cotto by UD
ElTerriblee: Cotto by KO 10
Erratic: Cotto by UD
joony: Cotto by Decision
Mr Doog: Cotto by KO 7
D MAN: Cotto by KO 1
Jake: Cotto by TKO 10
dymipepel: Cotto by KO ??
TFK: Cotto by UD
Baron: Cotto by UD
TysonFan4Ever: Cotto by TKO 7


Shane Mosley: 12
IronDanLaw: Mosley by SD
lb 4 lb: Mosley by KO 8
KaukipRrr: Mosley by KO ??
Ugotabe Kidding: Mosley by KO 10
Beyond the Grave: Mosley by TKO 10
TKO: Mosley by UD
Father of Muzse: Mosley by SD
Kaliber44: Mosley by KO 9
svenottke: Mosley by TKO 11
phonetap: Mosley by TKO 6
puerto rock: Mosley by KO 8
SRR: Mosley by UD

 

Even at the young age of 36 Mosley will still be the best fighter that Cotto has ever faced. Not to mention that Mosley will be prolly the most mentally prepared fighter that Cotto has faced as well. The question is will Mosley at 36 all of a sudden show up and be 36. If that's the case he gets beat. In that case I still can't see Cotto stopping Mosley for the simple fact is that Mosley has fought bigger punchers and has been able to survive. We have seen the type of fighters that give Mosley trouble and that is the bigger taller rangier type guys with long arms. Cotto does not own those advantages in this fight. Mosley will be faster than Cotto. Gotta think that he will be stronger due to the fact that Mosley has competed at 154 and he's bigger with a longer reach. Just like Tito, Cotto gets stronger and stronger as the fight goes on so Mosley is gonna have to put some hurt on Cotto to discourage him. Great fight. I'm predicting FOTY however I'm gonna go with Mosley in a UD. I just think that Mosley has more tricks up his sleeve and will be the best fighter that Cotto has ever fought that will not be a Zab Judah and break down mentally. I'll Holla 5000

 

By the way name a fighter that does like body shots:dunno:I'll Holla 5000

 

I got last week dead on at 116-112. I like Cotto at 116-111.

 

I think the point is that Shane is easier to hit than his style would supposedly indicate.

Despite his skills (which is considerable), Shane is not particularly elusive...especially because he is very much offensive-minded and DOES like to brawl and exchange. And when he does so, he is quite open.

When Shane is concentrating on defense - he can be very good. Problem is he doesn't integrate offense and defense that well (at the elite level).

Cotto has good timing and accuracy and underrated speed, IMHO. I think he'll find Mosley just fine - and vice-versa (though I do think Cotto's defense is a bit underrated).

Peace.

 

In what way is Cotto defense under-rated? I can understand that his concentration can be poor but I thin khis defense id always limited. Torres, Judah, Corley and even Urkal have prove dthis. Offense is good defense game plan if effective, but Cotto has too much emphasis on seek and destroy right which has tensncey to wander and leads to him being cauht. The profligavy of his, I hink, proves is not minor weakeness but habit, Mosley can exploit this but again I think Cotto has too much pressure for Shane.

 

In two of the three fights you mentioned (Torres and Corley), Cotto was fighting extremely recklessly. It's pretty evident in his approach and comparing those fights to others.

I'm not saying Cotto is a defensive wizard; he's not. But he integrates defense better than given credit for relative to the amount of offense he generates.

Especially considering when he has faced faster, accurate fighters.

At the end of the day, Judah only landed 29% of his shots against Cotto.

He landed more of his power shots, but he threw very little of them because of Cotto's relentless pressure....and because there were relatively few openings. And frankly, I think a few that Judah got credit for were partially deflected/blocked.

To your point, when Cotto is concentrating on his game and on fighting smart....he's not as easy to hit as people think, especially with parrying and subtle head and shoulder movement.

I think Cotto will be on point...as will Mosley.

Peace.

 

Yeah sure guys don't like body shots but remember Shane screaming after Forrest landed a body shot.

Shane is easy to hit. He reminds me of Taylor too. He makes alot of wasted movements he looks really hyper in the ring.

Shane didn't really land much on Forrest. He didn't land much in the Winky fight either. Remember the Monkey on his back comment. So saying Shane has hit everybody isn't true.

 

Cotto by semi-wide UD.

 

Mosley said the reason he screamed after that body punch was because he had hernia surgery after he fought Shannon Taylor in his previous fight. What Forrest did was hit Mosley right on the incision , that's why Mosley said he screamed in pain.

 

whatever the reason...that was a BRUTAL body shot...any fighter would scream...

 

Did you just call Winky Wright a bigger puncher than Miguel Cotto? Wow. Just... wow :laughing:

I understand your point on Shane never being stopped. But that said, Cotto's never been stopped either. Yet more than 1/2 of the predictions for Shane are by knockout, whereas it's "only" just over 40% among those picking Cotto.

I'm actually more surprised that the board is about to go 2 1/2 - 1 ratio in picking Cotto over Shane.

 

Did you just say you disagree with the majority that agrees with you?

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yes, how dare everyone else see things my way? ::