Final Prediction: "The Golden Boy" Oscar De La Hoya vs. "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather

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    I've spent a considerable amount of time in Eastern Europe, and I've always been a fan of its pornography. They fuck the bitch, and then they pee on her. Classic stuff.
     
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    Have you ever been to Romania? I always wanted to go there for some reason. Hungarian is a weird, weird language. What countries did you enjoy?
     
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    dsimon writes:

    For me definitely the latter. This is the last big fight that I can remind my sons about when I am so old that I have to change my diaper and clean my dentures out. :lol:

    I still get a kick out of it when my dad talks about Joe Louis
     
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    I've been to:
    • Russia
    • Estonia
    • Latvia
    • Lithuania
    • Belarus
    • Poland
    • The Czech Republic
    • The Slovak Republic
    • Hungary
    • Romania
    • Bulgaria
    I was going to go to some of the Yugoslav republicas, but the Serbs attacked Krajina. I liked Bulgaria, Romania, the Czech Republic, Russia and Lithuania the most. All of them were nice. The further South you go, the better the food. In Bulgaria, the French fries are just like in Belgium, except they're covered in goat cheese. Romania might've had the best food.

    The first time I took heroin was in Krakow; I went there in 1994 and 1995. Nice city. The mountains on the Slovak-Polish border are nice, too.
     
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    You must be a huge R Kelly fan
     
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    I know nothing of him outside of that Boondocks episode.
     
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    Looks like both DLH and Floyd are to wear Reyes gloves

    the lower the ounce the better :warning:
     
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    In recent years, I have been a big supporter of Floyd, but I am really disappointed how he failed to try to take the reins and try to become a star. Instead, he just embraced his primative love of the backward, ridiculous and teenybopper hip hop/psuedo gangsta image. Honestly, if Oscar wins it will be better for boxing.
     
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    De La Hoya UD
     
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    Ike why the fuck would you want to go to Romania?

    Romanians are the worst. London and Paris are plagued with romanian beggers. Some of them look like mutant zombie monsters. They are scum.

    I had a dream once that I was driving around in a van, jumping out and slaughtering all the romanian beggers with a samurai sword.
     
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    That's where Dracula came from, and sex with teenage girls still flies there.
     
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    Is he your special friend?
     
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    Yeah it sucks, I remember how much i used to get into boxing......boxing is dieing and I can't point my finger at one reason why:dunno:

    It has been few and far between fights that I actually looked forward to seeing over the past couple years. My interest has DRASTICALLY diminished. If my decline in interest was a stock chart, I would have sold last year.

    I am getting a little interested as the fight approaches, like I said before.......maybe it is because this is the last of my generation of fighters that are left moreso than the potential fight itself. I am expecting a Jones/Tarver 3 disappointment and if that happens, I can see boxing finally fizzle out in a long ride since I was five......where's the crying smilie at :dunno:
     
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    Goldenboy by UD, easy fight to call.
     
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    Only about 8 hours until Floyd taps that ass :clap: :clap: :clap: :clap:
     
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    I don't know about this Tyler. Everybody tends to whine about boxing being dead and saying "Oh there's no more good fights that interest me, boxing is dying, etc....."
    And then as another fight approaches, people are back on here giving predictions and making sig bets and stuff. Watch the reaction to Bernard Hopkins vs Winky Wright, and Wladimir Klitschko vs Lamon Brewster 2, and even Maskaev vs Sam Peter with the winner taking on Vitali.
    Even though we might think "Boxing sucks and there's nothing interesting happening", we tend to get more interested as the fight approaches and that's a norm when boxing is truly deeply in your blood. Nobody can turn away from the sport. A fight doesn't have to be a SUPER FIGHT with tons of media attention to spike your interest, in my view.
    We'll always have a soft spot and as long as people crave for knockouts, the sport will thrive. It's a bit on a decline right now in the States but elsewhere, it's huge. Mexico, Europe, Japan, even India. The sport will never die. Just remember how the sport was in the early 80s when nobody stood out and nobody embraced Larry Holmes. It was considered boring. Then more fighters came about, charismatic fighters like Holyfield, Tyson, Lewis, Bowe, Mercer, etc and boxing was shining again.
    The sport will never die.:nono:
    Everything works in cycles in every sport. Interest lost, interest gained, yada yada.....
     
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    Hanzy whatever happened to that Indian Cruiser-weight who was an Olympian... or am I just inventing stuff here? I clearly remember a well polished Indian boxer coming about a few years back.
     
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    Gurcharan Singh. He was promising. He has a pro record of 17-0(10 KOs). He hasn't fought since 2004. I don't think he would've made it far at the pro level. He was a good amateur though. He won a tremendous amount of titles and championships in Asia, and he had a pretty respectable run in Sydney Olympics at the 71-78kg class, [SIZE=-1]he reached the quarterfinal of the Games by defeating Choi Ki-Soo of South Korea and Daine Venter of South Africa but then marginally lost against Andh Fedtchouk of Ukraine.[/SIZE]
    But I feel there are better indian athletes than him out there who just never made a run to compete over here in the west.
    Fact is though, despite people saying boxing is a niche sport with hardly a following over here in the States, the sport is still humongous in most other parts of the world, especially in India.
    It would take only 1 moderately successful indian boxer to motivate the young kids in the 3rd world to adopt boxing and make it a career. Obviously the level of skill in Asian boxing is below the level of skill here in the States. But people normally are protected and tend to make their living in their home country rather than coming over to the big stage for the big money. Many people just live comfortably. Kinda like Corrie Sanders who was an on and off boxer. He fought here a few times and for a while, he just took small fights and made a comfortable living in his home in Pretoria, South Africa, fighting once a year and working as a cop. I bet there are monsters over where he comes from, just like Nigeria which had produced the likes of Ibeabuchi and Sam Peter. Get us more of those guys and ship them over here and help the sport!!!! LOL!
     
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    That's the guy. I saw one fight of his and thought he was pretty polished. I wonder why he hasn't fought in almost 3 years though...

    I agree that getting asia involved would make this sport blow up. A Chinese champion would literally get a state sponsored parade. :eek:
     
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    Wouldn't it be awesome if there was a chinese champion named Ding Dong?:clap:
     
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    I've been pondering this for a few days now.

    In 1999, Trinidad v De La Hoya was the biggest fight in the sport. It involved two of the top three 'P4P' fighters in the sport and at the height of their powers.

    At this same time, Floyd Mayweather was struggling for recognition, fighting a string of quality contenders some 17 pounds down below. The fight that made him is still some way off in the future, but the time eventually comes in 2001 (and later in 2002) and Floyd is among the elite in the sport. Mayweather finally hits his absolute peak in terms of quality wins, with the rematch victory over Jose Luis Castillo.

    Now, this is just the preamble leading to my explanation of why the term "P4P" is beyond ridiculous these days.

    Oscar and Floyd are fighting today @ 154 pounds and all you've heard in the lead-up is "The P4P best fighter in the sport fighting blah blah blah blah". Floyd Mayweather is NOT the P4P best fighter in the sport any longer. He can't be. If he was, you wouldn't have Fightbeat.com split down the fucking line on who would win this fight. Unless of course you're going to include Oscar among the top 5, how can you justify it?

    A Junior Middleweight pound Floyd Mayweather would be struggle with the title claimants @ 154 and I doubt he could separate himself from the pack in any shape or form. He fought two fights @ 147 and beat the champion there, but never separated himself from the pack. 140? Same deal.

    It takes you back all the way to 135, when he beat Castillo and defended that crown a couple of times. 2002-2003. That was Floyd Mayweather's high point. In terms of recognition and fighting weight. THAT 135 pound fighter was the best in the world and no fighter at any weight was better.

    That 135 pound fighter was MUCH better than the one who quite frankly was dull and unspectacular vs. Baldomir @ 147. He's not getting any better as he adds the weight.

    So ask yourself this again. If you really think Mayweather is the best fighter in the world (and most of you do), how is it you are all so divided over a fight involving a guy who was Floyd Mayweather, some 8 years ago, is semi-retired, hasn't won a big fight since 2003 and whom is STILL being given a big chance by a lot of you? He had no chance vs. a Bernard Hopkins who weighed 156 pounds. SIX POUNDS more than Mayweather.

    And Mayweather is the greatest fighter in the sport?
     
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    Craig's latest post is so absolutely fabulous that he was compelled to post it twice already. Read it now.
     
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    So, Mayweather isn't the best fighter in the world because the people here are shitheads?
     
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    If your point is that he's fighting at 154lbs at the moment and likely wouldn't be able to beat all of the other Junior Middleweights...then Roy Jones should have NEVER deserved the title when he beat Ruiz (Lennox Lewis would have CREAMED him).

    I sthat what you're saying?

    Anyway...Floyd is P4P the best fighter in the sport because he's a little guy who's won titles in divisions with fighters that are undoubtedly naturally bigger and is still undefeated.

    Should hi status as the best fighter be compromized BECAUSE he's taking on bigger challenges. I would have thought his status should be rewarded for this!:dunno:
     
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    oh...and..er..what has fightbeat's opinion on this got to do with anything?
     
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    A Roy Jones @ 200 pounds wasn't the best P4P fighter in the sport. No way and you'll never catch me saying otherwise either.

    P4P is your weight in comparison with your skills and how good you are. Floyd is 150 pounds. He hasn't been the 135 pound wizard for four years. You cannot be the P4P best fighter in the world in 2007, just because you were in 2003 and slapped on 20 odd pounds.
     
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    what a horrible post.

    Doesnt deserve a response due to overload of garbage.
     
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    This thread smells like shit now. :shit:
     

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