Final Prediction: "The Golden Boy" Oscar De La Hoya vs. "Pretty Boy" Floyd Mayweather

Is Mayweather a wannabe-thug in your mind staff? Or is he genuine? Watching that 24/7 show makes it seem like he's trying to be something that he's not.
It's like when the camera suddenly turns on, he transforms from a quiet dude with a smile to some character out of Boyz N The Hood.:dunno:

 

Him and 50 cent are the same

 

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Its pretty obvious that he just try's to sell tickets. Every guy hes fought that hes trashed he has praised after the fight.

 

Jones in that form could've beaten some good heavyweights. I think he could've taken that IBF belt from Byrd at the time. That's what he should've done instead of dropping back down to fight Tarver.

 

Yes, he wants to be noticed and disliked...so that he can make more money.

Hatred sells....just ask a young Cassius Clay.

Floyd is actually a nice guy, evidenced by his post fight respectful comments and apologies about his opponents.

He wants people to hate him pre-fight as this motivates him to work hard, KNOWING he has to deliver. PLUS, of course, he wants the backing of the urban culture...

 

fair enough. So what are your plans next saturday? You catching it at a local bar, ordering the fight, going to a friend's? I think I can hop on over to Uncle Jasvinder's place and see it live.

 

"Uncle Jasvinder's"... hehe

I'm efforting that as we speak. I'm leaning towards the local bar that I usually go to for big fights, but my cousin may be ordering the PPV and if so, I may...go down there..

 

Here's my quasi-analysis.

Keys to Victory for Oscar:

Intelligent Use of the Jab: As we all know, Floyd is excellent at countering jabs with his straight right hand, the "pull-counter". Guys can get more tenative when they're getting countered. On the other hand, Oscar has a terrific jab, better than any jab PBF has encountered as a pro, and as the saying goes, "a jab/good timing can neutralize speed". We saw it with Vernon Forrest against Shane Mosley, and to a lesser extent, Oscar in the rematch versus Mosley. De La Hoya can be very effective with the jab and knowing when to use it can be key. Once Floyd gets his rhythm going, he's extremely hard to stop.

The Left Hook: A no-brainer. Oscar's left hook is top-notch. Floyd, being the shorter guy, may have to reach in. He likes to leap in with the straight right hand. The darting in and out can be dangerous. For all of Floyd's technical brilliance, he does get away with things that others cannot because of his speed. He doesn't tuck his chin in when he punches, like Bernard Hopkins often does. He can leave his chin exposed, especially when he darts in and out with the straight right and Oscar can counter it. Oscar has to get the timing down on Mayweather's quick movements.

Body Attack: As Gil Clancy says, "the head may move but the body doesn't". Jose Luis Castillo had a tough time landing to Floyd's face, but an easier time to the body. This slows guys down and makes it harder to use your legs. Also, landing a well-placed shot on the hip or a low blow won't hurt. Oscar has always been an excellent body puncher.

Keys to Victory for Mayweather:

The Straight Right Hand: Yes, the same punch that can be very dangerous for Mayweather can also be the key punch in victory. Floyd has to know when to use it. Out of all the punches, the straight right hand is the one that Oscar is perhaps the most susecptible to. It was the key punch in Mosley's victory over Oscar in their first fight. B-Hop used it well too in his win over Oscar. Even Derrell Coley was able to stun Oscar with the straight right, if memory serves me correct.

Body Attack: Oscar's body punch defeat from Bernard Hopkins was not the only time Oscar's vulnerability to a body attack has cost him. He was hurt in both fights against Mosley from the body attack, which leads to the next category.

Get the Fight into the Late Rounds: Obviously it is no certainty that Oscar will fatigue and fade in the late going (Quartey, Vargas). But chances are, it favors Floyd in the late rounds than Oscar. When have you seen Mayweather fatigued in the late going? On the other hand, Oscar gave a couple of late rounds (10 and 11) away against M.A. Gonzalez, which was probably due to fatigue. Oscar also ran the last 3 rounds against Trinidad when he was tired, saying later than his legs were shaking and the fatigue affected his thought process. He faded in the late rounds against Mosley, both times, due to a wilting body attack. His heart allowed him to still throw leather in the late rounds, as it did also against Sturm, but getting outlanded is getting outlanded. Oscar also being a rather tense fighter seems to come to play as well.

The Jab: Mayweather is sometimes criticized for under utilizing his jab, but he does have an effective, educated jab. Watch his fights with Corrales and Sosa for instance. The jab can offset Oscar's rhythm and set up other shots for Mayweather. That's what a jab is for.

Of course some of these are somewhat obvious, but what else can I say? Boxing can be both complex and simple. Use your jab well and the other guy most likely will have problems. The question is which one of these guys will do a better job of using these tools better. I say the younger, fresher, smarter Floyd is.

Floyd UD. 8-4, 9-3, 6-5-1 (this is Vegas after all)

 

Whether you like Mayweather or not, he's legit. 50 Cent isn't.

 

Every good fighter/rapper is legit until they get exposed or give up a blueprint

 

Official pick: Floyd UD
Unofficial pick: Oscar KO
Moral support pick: 60% Oscar, 40% Floyd.

 

Nice pick, Double L.

 

Despite the fact that Oscar hammered Floyd with the contract (weight, gloves, ring size, etc), I find it hard to believe a guy who trains hard for 10 weeks of the year will beat someone who stays in supreme condition year round.

I think this fight is all hype, and unfortunately it may disappoint as Oscar will look old and slow.


This is a super event...not a superfight.

 

New poster of the week.

You have to admit, on another subject, both men came up from tough backgrounds. Oscar came up through the barrios, and while Floyd came up in a prestigious boxing family, his father - until being able to cash in on his son's popularity - was a drug dealer. You have to appreciate that both men came from humble beginnings to become rich, successful men.

 

Yes...but Oscar has the power and Flid has that Mayweather jaw. You can never put muscles on a jaw. Excellent post too.

 

Those silk pajamas ruin a fighter in the end

 

Don't forget that, somewhere along the line, Floyd was a slave. Other than that excellent chronology.

 

:: :: :: :: My god, you are like the Irish equivalent of Jessie/Al. You make White racism where there shouldn't be.


Oscar at least had a real family. His dad is a prick, but at least he a family. The Mayweathers are trash, human garbage. It has nothing to do with race. The Mayweathers are a athletically gifted criminal enterprise. They should name prisons after them.

 

Great.

Bedwetter State Prison

Has a good ring to it

 

Hey Floyd said it not me!!!!! Some Italian-American down in Kentucky ownded him and Floyd got sick of the $3m pay-days, flung his ass in the Ohio river and made it to Grand Rapids. Fact.

As for the "athletically gifted criminal enterprise"...is that like breaking and entering, and window prising, all in the same thing?? They just call it enter-prising.?? Aiight??

 

I just keep picturing how a young Oscar had immense trouble with a speedy Shane and slick Pernell....he's much older now and facing the same two problems rolled into one (Floyd).

I just hope Oscar's in supreme shape (to keep the heat on) because I don't think Floyd will stay in the pocket.

 

1. Pernell is an all time great and would whip the tar out of Floyd. I wouldn't even pick Floyd to beat a prime Hector Camacho, not going by his fight with Judah anyways.

2. Pernell was a SP that had good experience against bigger men. Pernell, if I remember correctly, started out at lightweight. He wasn't big but he started higher than Floyd.

3. Oscar had been doing a bit of moving up himself when he met Pernell. Compare that to how settled Oscar is at 154 now, and how new Floyd will be to that weight.

4. Mosley is bigger than Floyd.

5. A lot of people feel Oscar beat Mosley in their re.

 

I agree! which is funny to me when people label Oscar fake but Floyd "keeps it real" :laughing: he is also fake he just doesn't hide it well.

I think he should beat Oscar soundly but of course when he does Oscar will no longer be an overrated fake fighter he will be a legend that Floyd just beat. :laughing:

 

Floyd Mayweather is an all-time-great.

 

Pernell is a legend but I don't think he'd "whip" Floyd between 130-154.

Yes, Oscar is settled at 154 but he's no longer a supremely conditioned fighter....Floyd will make him move and work all night.

I believe Oscar beat Shane as well in their rematch, but both fighters were far removed from their physical prime (1st match). Also, let's not forget that Shane's defensive prowess paled in comparison to Floyd's.

 

Oscar De La Hoya: 13
ILLUMINATI: De La Hoya by TKO/KO 3
mexican wedding shirt: De La Hoya by TKO 11
Orthodox Crusader: De La Hoya by KO 11
ÇHÃ￾LÃ…QUÃ￾L£$: De La Hoya by MD
KaukipRrr: De La Hoya by KO 6
TKO: De La Hoya by TKO 6
PetreTG: De La Hoya by Decision
whiskey: De La Hoya by Decision
D MAN: De La Hoya by KO 3
3OG: De La Hoya by UD
Matchup_Analyzer: De La Hoya by KO 9
60/40: De La Hoya by KO 5
ArturoGatti: De La Hoya by TKO 10





Floyd Mayweather: 14
Trplsec: Mayweather by UD
Rubio MHS: Mayweather by Decision
slystaff: Mayweather by UD
Octopus: Mayweather by UD
boxingnotboxers: Mayweather by UD
dsimon3387: Mayweather by UD
royyjonesjrp4pno1: Mayweather by UD
Dr. Strangelove: Mayweather by close UD
jaws1216: Mayweather by UD
REEDsART: Mayweather by UD
steve_dave: Mayweather by UD
puerto rock: Mayweather by easy UD
Erratic: Mayweather by UD
dymipepel: Mayweather by UD

 

Mayweather by UD!

 

:nono: I said - De La Hoya TKO 10!!, cause I don't believe the referee is gunna call Fraud on his felonies, I really dont,....if he does 'KO 6',..but he won't, so TKO 10 you compartmentalizing dollop.

 

He's an insecure queer. His antics are well documented out in public at clubs and gainst his wife in the house. I'd say he is hamming it up a little, but not much.

 

Look sand monkey it doesn't say anything there about DLH in 10...:notallthere: