Floyd is a good fighter, but here is why I don't like him

if you insist upon childishly insulting the stinger like this then he will be left with no choice but to wield his vast authority here to have you vanquished!

 

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He also fought a lot, period.

He had like, I don't know, 170 fights???

Floyd has had....40? maybe??

And Sugar Ray always fought the best...I mean fighting La Motta twice in 3 weeks.....how does ANYTHING Floyd ever did compare to that one thing alone?

 

Robinson once fought four 15 rounders against Hall Of Famers in a year. That´s Floyd´s career done in one year (Oscar, Castillo I+II and Corrales). :tease:

 

Floyd is a fake ass Ni==a !! All he does is lie on camera.

 

well put brother dawg! if you don't think you are the best, you will never be the best.

anyone who thinks guys like roger federer and tiger woods don't believe they are the greatest at their particular sports is only fooling themselves. they just don't verbalize it publically like floyd mayweather does...

 

Mayweather isn't in the same stratosphere as Woods or Federer...that's the problem.

They have historical precedent to talk that way (if they chose to).

Jordan could talk that way, Magic, Bird, Sampras or even Agassi...

Mayweather's not in that class of athlete. He's got alot to prove. Besides, when most guys talk that kind of crap it's to mask insecurity.

Even when Ali did his "I'm the greatest" schtick, it was light hearted and more improtantly, lacked venom when you look at it in today's standards.

Roy Jones had as big an ego as any athlete and I didn't mind his ego simply because he didn't spend 60% of the time talking about how shitty everyone else was and the other 40% talking about how great he was....he was fully committed to himself. He spoke of himself 100% of the time.

 

Floyd thinking he's the best ever is one thing. Having that mindset is fine. But he's going to have to fight more top guys to have a better claim at that rather than saying so-and-so is not worthy to fight him or retiring after a not-that-impressive win over an inactive and aging DLH.

 

Floyd doesn't back shit up. Sure he wins, but he sure as hell didn't "fight" Oscar like he said. He sure as hell didn't back up his claim to be better than SRL and SRR. He has not faced the best fighters in any division beyond lightweight. Floyd is a delusional as a man can be.

 

It's just too bad that in boxing guys aren't forced to compete against the best like they are in Golf or Tennis. Woods and Federer regularly beat the other top guys in their respective sports. Can't say the same for Floyd.

 

Exactly, what if Federer refused to play in Wimbleton, and said "Who is Nadal? What has he done to play against me?" Tiger, "Who is Vijay Singh? What has he done to play against me?" It wouldn't happen. But here you have Floyd. He has unbeaten champions all around him. Not to mention Mosely and Margarito. Yet he fights Sharmba Mitchell. Good for him he fought and won a safe SD against DLH. So his best fights are Diego, Castillo, and DLH. 135 and 154. What happened to everything in between? :nono:

 

LOK, he is incredible. Which makes him that much more frustrating. When a guy of Floyd's talent fights a safe UD against a guy like Baldomir, it speaks volumes. I didn't expect Gatti/Ward. I did expect Ali/Foreman, Pryor/Arguello, Leonard/Duran, Hagler/Hearns etc. He's quicker than DLH. Great. Show me more than landing a shot. Stop him.

 

There may be truth in this. But don't tell me you are going to "destroy" someone, or pull out the thug routine and then go fight a safe SD. Don't talk Mike Tyson, and deliver Pernell Whitaker.:nono:

 

He dominated DLH..

the only one wobbled in that fight was DLH

sure I would have loved to see Floyd Stop him but some guys are not KO guys.. Pea dominated people without stopping them as well.. I think that is just as entertaining

 

Pea didn't talk like he was Mike Tyson either.

pea was as big of an asshole as anyone, but he never degraded his opposition like Floyd has. Plus, I don't recall pea ever making excuses why he wouldn't fight someone.

 

i'll give you that.. Pea didnt talk as much as Floyd.. but I think Floyd's talking is good! He is incredible so he should talk shit!

 

whitaker was/is indeed an asshole. even max kellerman said he wasn't likeable when he first met him in person.

regardless, his personality was consistent and didn't have that fake gangsta image that floyd carries.

mayweather is actually a nice guy in person, whitaker isn't.

 

I don't hold it against a fighter's all-time standing if he rarely scores KOs or is conservative in the ring. Some of the greats had pretty low KO percentages (Pep, Whitaker, Ortiz).

What he needs to do is fight more top quality fighters in order to help back up his claims of being the best of this generation, ever, etc...He'll most likely never be up there with a Robinson or Armstrong, but he at least has the chance to separate himself from the other top fighters of this era in the future, he needs to beat some of the elite guys in an excellent 147 lb. division. If he's dull in doing it, so be it, but he needs to fight these guys and win (clearly). That will go a long way in his all-time standing if he is able to do so.

 

you know, I am a big fan of Floyd.. but as a person and character, I am a bigger fan of Shane,

Shane is a real great guy, I heard an interview with him before he fought Verrnon the 2nd time and the interviewer was asking if he was worried about having a loss or getting another loss on his record by fighting a risky fight againest a guy that gives him problems.

Shane's response was somthing like "I'm not worried.. I will probably have 5 or 10 losses on my record before I retire beacause I want to fight the best! Thats what the old timers did, they all had losses. and I will too"

:bears: :bears:

I love that attitude.. he is not afraid to have losses. Sometimes today guys wanna protect the "0" too much I think. Shane is a throw back

 

They can also play more regularly then what they do in boxing. In golf and tennis you can play tournaments every month hell even other week if you wanted. You can't in boxing. No There's no comparison. Also you don't have to worry about stupid ass promoters getting in the way and the money issue. So you compare the 2 in my eyes. I'll Holla 5000

 

The point was if Woods and Federer want to go around saying they are the best in their sport, they have every right. They have proved it against the best opponents.

Floyd as long as he stays retired and doesn't fight the best guys out there cannot say he's the best. It's just not proven.

The sports are nothing alike, you're right. I'm not comparing the sports. I'm comparing the right to be called the best. You earn that right by beating the best.

 

if you look at it from this perspective, that places evben MORE pressure on Floyd to make sure he takes on the best each time out. AND he's got to fight to win, not do enough to win rounds.

 

how come i dont see this gangsta image that alot of other people see? can you elaborate in what he does that makes you think gangsta when you see floyd?

 

imo you cant be a great athlete without being cocky and believing in yourself and beleaving that your the best, like i said my choice of athletes i like to watch is 99% abilities and 1% their personality

 

im not a fan of shane outside the ring, i think hes a little slow, probly was in special education classes as a kid

 

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If Floyd ended his career with wins over Mosely, Cotto, and Hatton he would give his legacy volumes of respect, and change many opinions about him including mine. If he stays retired, he is just a very talented fighter who never fought the best around him.

 

He doesn't have to beat all of them, he's already a great fighter, but damn;

De la Hoya
Castillo
Corrales
Mosley
Cotto
Hatton
Hernandez
Judah


What a fucking great resume that would be.

 

I can agree with you, he is a great fighter. But when you want people to talk about you in GOAT conversations, his current resume just doesn't cut it.:nono:

 

Exactly. If Floyd thinks for a second that his resume right this moment is up there with the all time greats, he is high!