Floyd Mayweather agrees to undergo...

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    I've already asked myself why a fighter wouldn't want to be randomly tested. And I don't buy the "jumping through the rings" garbage. As if Pacquiao has never made outlandish requests before. And this isn't even outlandish. Sh*t, it's actually something good! But because FLOYD suggested it...
     
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    EXACTLY. But because Paulie won't ask for random testing, it's ok. I guess "baseless accusations" only ruin fights when Mayweather's doing the accusing. Or maybe it's just the random testing that's the real issue.
     
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    If Paulie was so "strong" about his opinion, why would he fight Manny in the first place? :lol:

    Face it, Paulie and Floyd Crack Mayweather Sr just aren't credible.
     
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    When Mayweather has the balance of Power, everyone is cool. Because Floyd is a "Bidness Man". But when greasy Pac has the power, its not kosher.

    Double Standard.
     
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    Pretty much.
     
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    If Pacquiao feels so self-righteous about being called a user - so much so that he pulls out of a monster fight and files a suit - why would he then waltz over to the next guy who is screaming the same thing just as loud?
     
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    I think NobleArt's point makes the most sense, "Would you take $40 million to take it up the ass from Michael Clark Duncan?"

    You can answer that question any way you want, I pretty much know your answer anyway.

    Now can you have the decency to answer my point about how a "righteous" accuser would now flip flop?
     
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    Pacquaio did not take offense at being called a user. He took offense at being asked to perform tests above and beyond the industry standard, at the whim of a duck-merchant who may not want the fight to begin with. Its one thing to be called a clown, its something else to be asked to perform as such.
     
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    Can you provide specific examples to this mess?
     
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    So taking more stringent tests makes you a clown? Even when both fighters are subject to it...I get it.

    Anyway, I agree with your post. And that's my point. In spite of the posts on here stating "Why should Pacquiao have to do it because a crackhead accused him?" and all that other mess, the fact is, Pacquiao doesn't have an issue with Mayweather's words. His ONLY issue is taking the tests. Period.
     
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    Well Floyd had the balance of power over Ricky Hatton......so Floyd got the bigger cut, even though Hatton did an awful lot of the selling. Everyone seemed happy with that. Floyd also dictated on weight.
     
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    Well Manny had the balance of power over Miguel Cotto. He also dictated the weight. Everyone seemed happy with that.
     
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    Hatton wanted the fight at 147. What are you talking about.
     
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    Taking a random blood test is akin to taking it up the a**?

    Got it.
     
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    All this righteousness and indignant huffing about "above and beyond" requests. lets not pretend fight negotiations at this level are comparable with most other sporting events, you can always assume everything from the size of gloves, ring, choice of referee, judges etc., near fucking everything is on the table, each side seeking greatest advantage financially and within the bounds of ringside permutations, its a fucking circus, an event. In that context, I can't see how any condition, requisite, bargaining chip, is ridiculous or unacceptable. Much like pacquaio's 10million or whatever it was weight penalty.
     
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    Since you have a very low IQ, I'll translate it for you.

    Translation: Giving leverage to another person in negotiations without getting anything in return is akin to Michael Clark Duncan giving it to you in the ass.
     
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    Floyd agreed to the $10,000,000 weight penalty. Manny got his in return then tailed and ran from his biggest payday ever.
     
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    How does Floyd get leverage if they both agree to the terms?
     
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    Coming in on weight is a requirement of the commission, not just in Nevada, but in EVERY state commission. Your analogy fails.
     
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    Because they are Floyd's terms, not Pacquiao's, and not a 3rd party's.

    If the stipulation was that Manny had a circus performing in his camp everyday, would it be fair enough, because Floyd would also have one?
     
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    So...it's ok for Manny NOT to accept because Floyd asked.

    Got it.
     
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    Fines for refusing to make weight are levied by the commission too, no?
     
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    Yes.

    If one of Manny's clauses was that they have a Filipino circus performing in their camp everyday, should Floyd agree to it simply because Manny is prepared to endure the same experience? :lol:
     
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    You know, all I'm getting here is that Manny is perfectly in the right because Floyd asked. Nevermind the ridiculous stipulations Manny requested himself, nevermind that Floyd's request - as selfish as Manny's are - is actually a positive one. That doesn't matter. Manny shouldn't do it because Floyd asked. Let's stick to the crappy system we have. Maybe if Genaro Hernandez had asked then it would be ok.
     
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    Floyd is requesting something the average fan should support. So stop the stupid, childish comparisons to a circus.
     
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    Now you're interjecting your personal opinion into what others do. Okay Adolph. Calm down dude.
     
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    Kenneth, stop being a fucking moron.

    It has nothing to do with FLOYD.

    It's the fact that Floyd (or anyone) thinks he can order Pacquiao around, make unprecedented demands, for a fighter who is officially roid free.

    I would feel exactly the same way if this was Manny demanding the same thing over another officially roid free fighter in Floyd.

    You're getting hung up, and you've got a chip on your shoulder, because you think opinions like mine are based on dislike for Floyd, and that it's only because it's Floyd that anyone has a problem with it.

    The fact of the matter is very simple. A fighter with no record of steroids, should not have to undergo the most extreme drug testing in the history of boxing because his opponent wants him to, based on nothing more than a hunch.
     
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    You're right. More stringent testing measures shouldn't be supported by fans.
     
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    LMAO! Floyd is ordering Pacquiao around now?

    This is getting laughable.
     

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