Floyd Mayweather announces retirement from Boxing?

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  1. KaukipRrr

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    Shots that are supposed to take thier toll on Fraud skim off the top of his shoulder while he's twisting his back, he trains meticulously and looks after himself as good as anyone,.. Fraud is in his prime, and will remain in his prime for years to come, I mean what do you think has taken it's toll on Fraud?..it's not punches, that illegal shoulder roll shit has ruled that out.
     
  2. Tyler Durden

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    Amen. I think I heard this before :boohoo:

    Please Floyd, don't retire!....we need you! :pray:

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  3. Xplosive

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    If Floyd's in his prime, its the TAIL end of it. If he comes back in 2 years, theres no question at all he wont be the same.

    It doesnt matter how well Floyd takes care of himself, age will get you regardless. Floyd wont always have his speed, and for all the skill he has that makes him great, its his god given athletic ability that took him to another level. Once thats gone, he'll become more beatable.
     
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    These days, if athletes keep themselves in top shape all year round, it's not uncommon to have them competing at the highest level at age 40, Fraud doesn't strain himself with draining weight, nor does he walk into punches on a regular basis, he has a longterm passive style. Coming back in 2 years would be no problem at all, you think he'll forget how to box?..
     
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    I just got off the phone with a source very close to the situation and I am told that Floyd Mayweather and his representatives have been in contact with UFC's Dana White as late as Wednesday but "possibly as late as last night" according to the source.

    UFC is expected to make several announcements on Thursday.

    1) Anderson Silva will be fighting in the light heavyweight class
    2) Chuck Liddell will fight in the main event on the September pay-per-view in Atlanta

    However, the big announcement being rumored is that Floyd Mayweather will be signing or has signed with UFC. For those that did not read our last update, Mayweather announced his retirement from boxing. If this signing turns out to be the case this would be a huge coup for UFC as it would surely attract some of the boxing fans that have not given UFC a chance.

    Mayweather recently was part of WrestleMania XXIV in Orlando where he participated in a match against Paul "Big Show" White. Mayweather was open to do a rematch but now with the UFC deal that looks to be off the books.

    http://www.wrestlingherald.com/head...ull&id=1212856741&archive=&start_from=&ucat=8&
     
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    I'm gonna be sick.
     
  7. Baron

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    If he's switching to UFC, that'll be a huge blow to boxing.
     
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    From Floyd's Perspective, there's NO UPSIDE to Joining UFC...

    1. UFC DOESN'T Pay their Guys the Way Floyd WANTS to B Paid...
    2. Floyd DOESN'T have the Type of PHYSICAL Boxing Style that Could Carry Over to UFC...A More AGGRESSIVE, Kelly Pavlik Type of Style is MUCH Better Suited to MMA than Floyd's Hit & Run Style....U Need STRENGTH N MMA & Floyd ISN'T Known for that....

    3. If Floyd's BRITTLE Hands CAN'T Hold Up Consistently, Wearing 10 & 12oz. Gloves, HOW R They Gonna Hold Up Wearing 4oz. Gloves???...

    N the Cage, an Energetic Guy like Urijah Faber would Probably EMBARASS Floyd...& a Guy like B.J. Penn would Beat him Half to Death...

    By Joining UFC, Floyd's Status can Only DECREASE...This would B 1 of THE Worst Career Moves EVER, if it Pans Out...


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    I agree on all points, 100%.
     
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    FUCK YOU FLOYD! if this is true.
     
  11. phonetap

    phonetap Undisputed Champion

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    oh well...ultimately floyd has to do what's in his best interest and if this is it then so be it. hopefully he doesn't end up in financial ruin in a few years and embarass himself with a return to the ring.
     
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    Like REED said, Mayweather is not physical and brutal enough to compete in the UFC, too cute, too reliant on skill.

    MMA is different. Despite the huge variety in fighting styles, it's more simple than boxing really, and raw.

    And in MMA, you HAVE to learn some takedown defense and be able to wrestle a bit, because especially if people know you're a world class striker, they are going to try and take you down, end of story.

    You know it's funny, I fucking LOATHE floyd, but if he fought in the UFC I would root for him. Purely just to represent boxing.

    I like boxing and MMA, and I hate floyd, but first and foremost I am a boxing fan, so I want it to be represented well.

    Still, I think Floyd could take out that stupid little roid jock Sherk, but would lose badly to the likes of Urijah or Penn.
     
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    floyd isn't going to fight MMA. if anything floyd should sign up to do a reality TV (preferably on HBO) show showcasing him and his disfunctional family...it would be gold! :popcorn: as far as phonetap is concerned the mayweathers made those HBO 24/7 series work...
     
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    If it's an MMA Fight, REED would even Pick Sherk to BEAT Floyd...

    U HAVE to Bring a Certain Level of AGGRESSION to MMA...There's LESS "Science" Involved w/MMA than Boxing...Floyd's a Counterpuncher N BOXING, so he'd B TWICE as LEERY N MMA...

    UFC Fans would BOO Floyd Right Out of the Cage...MMA is MUCH More COMBATIVE than Anything Floyd's Used to...It's an ACTION Oriented Sport...Floyd would either PUNCH or RUN...No N Btwn...Honestly, REED Could See Floyd Getting DQ'ed N MMA for LACK of Action...

    REED Could See Sherk PRESSURING Floyd & Maybe even TAKING a Shot just to Get CLOSE Enough to GRAB Floyd...& 1nce he Grabbed Floyd, Fight's OVER...

    Guys like Pavlik, Miranda, Mayorga, Prime Arturo Gatti, Mickey Ward, Israel Vasquez or James Kirkland would have a MUCH Better Chance of Successfully Crossing Over to MMA than a "Cute" Fighter like Floyd...


    REED:hammert:
     
  15. Mitchell Kane

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    Mayweather's not even a huge puncher in boxing and Sherk has a good chin.

    I can't see Mayweather avoiding going to the canvas in that one and it would be brutal for him there.
     
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    I agree with REED. Floyd doesn't have the style, and the hands will definately be an issue. BUT, I do not rule out him giving it a try. I could see his ego getting the better of him and trick him into thinking he can dominate in other combat sports.
     
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    You're probably right, I just don't think much of Sherk. I think if Mayweather learnt takedown defense, a bit of wrestling, and realised he has to be more aggressive, I think he could take him.

    Lest we not forget REED, Lidell has been VERY successful in MMA, and he is a basic, sloppy boxer with takedown defense, nothing more. Ironically he is not even that aggressive, he is a sort of counterpuncher really.
     
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    In MMA terms Floyd would be an incredible puncher.

    Surely you realise the difference? I've trained in Martial Arts and boxing, and I would rather be hit by a MA middleweight, than a featherweight pro boxer.

    Boxer's punching technique, speed, power, accuracy, and overall hand techniques wipe the floor with MMA.

    I have no doubt at all that Sherk would have experienced nothing like Floyd's punches.
     
  19. Mitchell Kane

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    Mayweather's technique isn't designed to punch with power and MMA fighters aren't trying to win points when they punch.

    It's a different style completely.
     
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    Floyd would hurt his hand on the first punch he threw and it would be over very quickly after that.
     
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    Punching in boxing, and punching in MMA are two totally different animals.

    It's like comparing passing in football and passing in basketball. Same idea, but completely different.


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    The Thing is, Floyd would have NO Room for ERROR, Mex...He'd have to Make EVERY SINGLE Punch Count...AND, he'd HAVE to Keep Sherk on the OUTSIDE...& Like Mitchell Kane Said, it's NOT like Floyd has EVER Been Regarded as a "Puncher"...

    Floyd would likely BREAK his Hand the 1st Time he Hit Sherk FLUSH w/a Shot (Wearing 4oz. Gloves), So he'd Better PRAY that 1 Shot ENDS the Fight or it's his ASS, Honestly...

    No Doubt, it'd B INTERESTING to Watch, but REED Doesn't Like Floyd's Chances Going N 2 MMA...On the Flipside, Floyd would CRUCIFY Sherk N a Boxing Match...

    Kermit Cintron is a Welter who's NOWHERE CLOSE to Floyd's Level N Boxing, yet he'd Fare MUCH Better than Floyd N MMA...Cintron has a WRESTLING Background & Concussive 1 Punch Power...

    Obviously, Sherk would HAVE to GAMBLE & HOPE that he can ABSORB a Shot or 2 to Get CLOSE to Floyd...But if/when he DID, Fight's OVER...



    REED:kidcool:
     
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    I like this analogy.
     
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    Sure, Chuck is HAND ORIENTED, but if REED's Not Mistaken, he Got a SCHOLARSHIP for his WRESTLING Ability...& he's Ended Some Fights on KICKS...& his Takedown DEFENSE is EXCELLENT...

    Liddell's MORE Well Rounded than Floyd could EVER Hope to B, N MMA...

    Liddells's More of a "PATIENT Brawler" than a PURE Counterpuncher, N REED's Opinion...The INSTANT he THINKS U're Hurt, he Go's ALL OUT to END the Fight...


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    mauweather has a wrestling background also
     
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    He just beat a division 1 wrestler on December 8 2007.
     
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    Mayweather CAN punch with power when he wants to, and his punches are so quick and accurate that part of the "power" of his punches, is their flushness and that people don't see them coming.

    MMA fighters can't punch like boxers, you must know this Mitchell, in the same way as boxers can't wrestle, or ground and pound, or kick like an MMA fighter.

    I've even trained in Thai boxing when I was a teenager, and Muay Thai is a fucking BRUTAL discipline as I am sure you know, but they cannot punch as hard as boxers, generally speaking, just like MMA fighters can't.

    I guarantee you that Glencoffe Johnson's punches are a hell of a lot more devastating than Anderson Silva's.

    In the same vein, I guarantee you that BJ Penn's punches aren't anywhere near as lethal as Floyd's.

    If Floyd's hands held up, and he managed to not get taken down and wrestled/pounded into submission, he would bust Sherk up badly.

    Basically if Sherk nutted up and decided to stand with Floyd, you'd see what an average puncher like Floyd would do in MMA.
     
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    Sure, patient brawler/wannabe boxer maybe.

    He DOES have great takedown defense, absolutely, and that - coupled with some basic boxing ability, has got him pretty far in MMA.

    But really, he fights almost exclusively with his hands, rarely does his wrestling background come into play, and rarely does he win a fight with kicks.

    Cro Cop for example, is (was) a pure striker with very good takedown defense.

    There's no doubt that overall Floyd entering the UFC is a bad idea, if it does happen I hope he does well for the sake of boxing.

    Either way though, win or lose, I think people are going to be surprised at how effective his punches are compared to career MMA fighters.
     
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    He DOES???...

    REED
     
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    Yup. And that would be to get hit with a barrage of kicks and punches, get caught in a clinch, and eat a few knees before he gets knocked out.

    And that's only if whoever fought Floyd decided not to take him down, since, if Floyd stood in a boxing stance, he'd get double legged so quick his head would spin. Or his front leg would get hit with kick after kick that he wouldn't be able to stand.

    You gotta be realistic, Floyd stands no chance in an MMA match.

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