Floyd Mayweather announces retirement from Boxing?

PBF is on a far higher level than Kimbo, it's not even close. Guys like KJ Noons or CC were able to do it, PBF is on a far higher level than both of them, he could do it.

 

All it would take is one punch :kidcool:

j/k but I can't remember Floyd complaining about his hands lately. Last time I remember was the Baldomir fight.

 

Floyd is on a higher level then Kimbo if we're talking about boxing, but we're not, we're talking about ground fighting. And with Kimbo's strength, I'd put him on a higher level then Floyd. Strength can help immensly in ground fighting, as you saw Kimbo was at times able to Muscle Thompson off of him. And Floyd doesn't strike me as an overly strong guy.


TFK

 

I know, but I was saying IF the fight was remaining standing, as in, if Floyd stuffed Sherks takedowns

 

You might as well say Floyd hit Sherk with a flying Gogoplata.

TFK

 

Let's say WILL NOT happen and be more accurate. Floyd is not a fighter, let's be real. You can't run to win or turn your back so you can't get hit in UFC or any MMA :laughing:

 

These two are not the same thing. I see no reason why Floyd would employ a flying gogoplata, He would try to do something that would keep the fight standing, like stuffing a takedown. A complicated submission technique just doesn't fly with what Floyd would try to fit in his gameplan.

 

Well, I don't see Floyd stuffing too many takedowns either.

TFK

 

Well, I guess we look at it from different perspectives then. Boxing doesn't have a lot of big name boxers, even if Floyd was almost a part time boxer, he was still one of the most recognizable face in boxing. I think losing a guy with that kind of appeal is bad for the sport. But if he really dominates there, MMA fans might be tempted to switch to boxing, I'll give you that.

 

200 Million in cash and equity... That means Floyd will take a financial hit too if he isn't successfull. I think the equity part, if it's big enough, will provides some pretty good incentives to Floyd. If he trains hard, learn what he needs to learn and propel UFC to another level, he'll gain a lot of money and a pretty good long term investment. The amount is huge, but the idea of mixing cash and equity is a pretty good one IMO.

 

Terrible move for Mayweather. All this talk about guys trying to strike with Floyd is moot anyway. Knowing his background, every UFC guy will be going for kicks the takedown almost exclusively. No one there can match boxing skills with him.

I can't see FM going well at this unless he only fights washed up strikers.

 

Don't forget that Floyd would probably have to fight at 155... he's only fought at 154 once in boxing.

 

If Floyd went to the UFC and dominated, it would be a huge upside to his career.

2. Agree about Floyd not having the right style to carry over, but more because of his lack of physical attributes, not his 'style.' Same goes for Pavlik. Boxers that have a better chance at mma are guys that are built like brick shithouses...like Lacy, O Bell, and the chin checkers. Sure, not all mma guys are built like this, but they all tend to be very, very strong. It's not a trait required or even wanted in a boxer.

There are a lot more guys than Faber or Penn that would dominate Floyd for the foreseeable future.

 

I think Floyd will be able to name his weight class. If he wants to make the fight at 148.75, his opponents will accommodate him.

 

All you're doing is proving you don't understand just how effective a world class boxer's striking is compared to an MMA fighter.

Kimbo, a prison boxer/ street fighter WITHOUT ONE PRO FIGHT, can outstrike an average fighter like James Thompson, and make people weary of his striking, and yet the best boxer in the world, Mayweather, is going to get outstriked by fuckign Sherk? ::

And even Botha, a washed up heavyweight bum, had some success in MMA with his boxing skills, and yet Mayweather can't?

TFK you're alright, but you're just being an ignorant groupie now.

And you know something, I almost certainly know the difference better than you.

YOU said you've got a wrestling background.

Well I've trained to fight in various stand up disciplines since the age of 9, Karate, Tae Kwon Do, Thai Boxing, and finally Boxing.

I understand the difference very well, and I know for certain that a boxer's striking ability, general hand techniques and stand up game far exceeds any martial arts.

If any MMA fighter around Floyd's size elects to stand (like Sherk did with Penn) - they would get eaten alive, if Floyd went to the ground - an equally obvious result - Floyd would get eaten alive.

Let me put it to you simply TFK - if BJ Penn, a guy with amateur level boxing ability, can outbox the shit out Sherk, what on earth makes you think Floyd can't, if he learns some takedown defense?

 

That's just like saying 'All Sherk needs to do is learn some boxing skills, and he'd beat Floyd in a boxing match'. There's a lot of assuming going on there.


TFK

 

A big difference between takedown defense (just one aspect of MMA) and a whole sport ::

You're simplifying things. It's much, much easier to learn takedown defense than learn world class boxing ability and hand technques.

Guys like cro cop came from a strikign background and learnt superb takedown defense.

Now mayweather's training/learning time is limited of course, but someone as athletically gifted, schooled, and skilled as floyd, AND hardworking, there's no reason to think he wouldn't be able to learn takedown defense.

Shit, nobody's saying he's going to outwrestle sherk or armbar him, but you'd have to be a complete fcuking idiot to think if the fight STAYED STANDING, that sherk would even be competitive with floyd, let alone get the better of him.

 

No not at all.ld:

 

To suggest any MMA dude would beat Floyd standing and boxing is ridiculous.

But when you factor in knees, clinches, elbows, kicks, and all the other good stuff that comes with MMA standup, Floyd wouldn't stand a chance.

TFK

 

not to mention sherk is naturally bigger and stronger, floyd is at 147 and small for that weight, sherk is a solid 155

 

From fighting for a living.

Jesus.

 

The talk of Mayweather going to UFC just makes me think more that the retirement a publicity stunt.

He'd get beaten pretty badly in MMA.

 

He's proportionally as big as Cotto, if not bigger,.. I'd say he's an average sized welterweight.

 

Erratic please, Fraud's the last person in the sport who'd have a case for being "burned out".

 

mayweather has the bigger bank account, other than that cotto is clearly the bigger and thicker person

 

Cotto's thicker, but he's alot shorter, with significantly shorter limbs,..there was a clear size difference between Fraud and the 'jr welterweight' champ, so I think it's pretty fare to call Fraud an average sized welterweight, I do think Fraud's body type with 0% fat, has better 'weight cutting' resistance, but that doesn't make Cotto the larger fighter at his fittest weight, I also think Fraud's official reach and height measurements are as innacurate as Paul Williams, he's more like 5"9 1/2, than 5"8,.. and his reach is alot longer than 72".. I was shocked at those pictures at the Hatton/Fraud staredown after the weigh in, seeing Fraud's shoulder started at Hatton's chin,..and has fingertips ending at Hatton's knees.....WTF!!!...

 

hatton and cotto don't have long arms but both are thicker chaps than mayweather. I've seen all three in person. floyd aint more than 5'8 either

if mayweather is an average sized welterweight then who would you consider a small welter?

 

Well, if you take a look at all Fraud's fights at welterweight,.. Im yet to see a bigger fighter than him :crafty:.

 

Strangely, Mayweather is a fairly small welter, but at the same time he looked bigger than most of the guys he fought at 140.

He fits somewhere between the 2. He's a natural 143.5 pounder.