Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Felix Trinidad (with the wraps) @ WW & 154

There is a difference, though.

Brook is the IBF welterweight champion, undefeated, a fellow Brit, AND he represented the highest AVAILABLE pay day for Khan outside of Mayweather and Pacquiao (Whom I insist will never fight Khan). Would be a packed house in Wembley Stadium and Khan would make big bucks for that.

Instead he chose to face a guy who was washed by Pac, and who even in his hometown barely anyone knows about, and worst of all on Spike TV. athetic:

I think it's reasons like that people do believe that Khan is legitimately afraid of not just Brook, but any of those top welterweights. It's almost like he KNOWS they'd beat him and thus screw up his chance at cashing out.

 

Khan's daddy would never in two million years allow his son in the ring with a young Trinidad. Khan wouldn't take the fight either. He's retraded and stupid, but he's not crazy.

 

Mayweather-Williams woulda been fascinating. I dunno how Floyd woulda won that

 

Williams is one of the most overrated fighters of the last 15 years. There is ZERO evidence to support him being able to figure out Floyd. This is a man that was soundly out boxed by Quintana for Christ sake.

Floyd would have beaten Paul by a wide margin.

 

yeah, i hadnt seen the quitana fight in donkeys....i forgot how scrubby williams looked. Still woulda been interesting

 

When Brook gets exposed as the fraud he is, I'm going to be laughing my backside off at a lot of otherwise good and fine folk. Brook, who is crap, has been elevated beyond all sensible belief off the back of a decent win against a B-level world champion and precisely nada else of note.

The idea that ANYONE is ducking Kell Brook is beyond parody. The situation with Khan-Brook is exactly the same as Hatton-Witter was back in the day. Khan doesn't like Brook and doesn't want to give him a big payday just because (like Witter did) Brook has somehow managed to get himself a shiny belt.

MTF

 

Maybe Brook will be exposed as a fraud, maybe not. But Khan has been exposed as a fraud 3 times (We can say 4 if we count the Algieri fight ) already, and it's clear that in America he's not as big a star that he thinks he is. If he was, his fight with Algieri would have landed on HBO or pay per view, but it didn't.

Khan is in no way shape or form ABOVE Brook. I dare say that even in England Khan is not all that big of a superstar either. The best available option for him was KELL BROOK for 8 million pounds. And he blatantly ducked him. I mean in all seriousness, you don't really think he's gonna get the Mayweather fight, right? I myself dare say that he won't even get the Pacquiao fight.

So what excuse does he have for ducking the top welterweights now?

 

The differences between the career Khan has taken and the one Brook has taken are like night and day.

Khan left the relative safety of the UK to fight in the States, consistently, against top-rated fighters. He has loses because he has fought legitimate challengers and because his chin is woeful. He has fought Maidana, Garcia, Peterson and Kotelnik to name just four of the very decent fighters he has taken on.

Brook, whose career I have had the great misfortune of following for years (I must have seen at least 20 of his fights), on the other hand has amassed an unbeaten record of incredible sparsity. He lost, handily, to Carson Jones. He has been derided for years. He took a cashout fight in the US and produced a good performance to win his title. He has since run straight back to Sheffield where he has 'defended' his title against a bloke called Jo-Jo, a cokehead and next up is a bloke called Chaves. He is being protected beyond all belief, as he has been his entire career. He has precisely ONE decent win to his name against the single decent opponent he has ever fought.

Yet, somehow, people have genuinely fallen for the line that Brook, the man who has spent his entire career hiding in his hometown, fighting no-marks, has Khan frightened and ducking him.

MTF ::

 

There can't be any denial that Brook's opposition is not the greatest, but I would be willing to bet you that if Brook had faced the likes of Garcia, Peterson, Kotelnik, and Maidana, he'd still be undefeated. Do I think Brook is pound 4 pound??? NO... But I do believe he is a top 5 welterweight in the world and a legitimate world champion and that's more than we can say about Khan today.

There's a very good chance Khan came to the States because he was in fact, KNOCKED OUT by Prescott. Had he won that fight, he too would have been protected against all those bums that he was feasting on for his first 20 or so fights, hiding behind his silver medal and sponsors. He left because he basically got laughed out of England and he was starting to see empty seats in the arenas every time he fought.

Now I will admit, I have not seen Brook vs Carson Jones in a while... I can barely remember that fight. So I'll have to get a look again. But, beating Shawn Porter ALONE is more than what Khan has done at 147. Sure at 140 he faced top guys, lost TWICE, but did fight them. But after Garcia took his balls, he's picked opponents who couldn't punch their way out of a wet paper bag and he was still knocked down by one of them.

This is not the stuff of a guy who is in any position to pick and choose his opponents.

 

There is no evidence that Brook would beat any of those guys. He's trash, honestly he is. I've seen him fight at least 20 times. His resume is embarrassing. Rewatch the first Carson Jones fight. Brook got an absolute gift in that fight - Jones was flat out robbed.

Legitimate, proper world champions do not defend their title against cokeheads and they do not lose to Carson Jones.

MTF

 

Brook on p4p list is a total joke.

 

How do you think Brook would fare against Tito without the wraps?

 

Even without the wraps tito would probably beat Kell Poop.

 

Behold - the supernatural tape...

 

Ok I watched the fight just now...

I can definitely see your argument for a win for Carson Jones... But is it a robbery on par with Pac-Bradley 1 or Lewis-Holyfield 1????... Nahhhhh.

Jones could have won had he started earlier. He let Brook have the first 6 rounds, basically. Sorta similar to the Garcia-Peterson fight.

And yes, Brook's resume isn't great. But for all that it's worth, he is one of the champs at 147 lbs and Khan should man up and take that fight, especially if the Pacquiao fight falls through.

I mean without Mayweather or Pacquiao, what is Khan gonna do? He'll have to fight the likes of Spence, Brook, Thurman, Garcia, Ali, etc. at some point. :dunno:

 

AGREED... 100%

But Khan begging for a pay day against Mayweather or Pacquiao for me is WORSE...

 

Khan deserves a big fight. He might just get Pacquiao anyway. Feebs is right in that Brook is getting far too much credit for having fought FUCK ALL in his career, where as Khan has gone out of his comfort zone and tried to prove himself.

That aside, I do rate Brook higher than what Feebs does, although him beating Khan is no lock.