Floyd Mayweather Jr. vs. Saul Canelo Alvarez in discussion

Yep, let's not forget it was Sr who started the Manny thing from the get go, and now this. Sr is a bitch.

 

Floyd sr. is being a father...I bet Jr. called him one hot vegas nite...at 1 in the morning crying about his fears of Canelo...."help me daddy"...

 

FUCK Floyd...




REED:shit:

 

reed is just upset that mayweather jr shall retire undefeated instead of with losses to some mongoloid named Lebedev and an australian brick layer.

 

Nah,

REED's "Upset" Because Floyd is BULLSHITTING Hardcore Boxing Fans, who KNOW BETTER...He Calls Himself the Greatest All Because of that "0", but When's the Last Time Floyd LEGITIMATELY Put that "0" @ Risk???...You Tell REED, Neil???...

Up To & INCLUDING the Hatton Fight, Floyd's Resume was BEYOND Reproach, in REED's Opinion...Since Then, he's Been BLATANTLY CHERRY PICKING...He WILLINGLY Allowed THE BIGGEST Fight of his Career to Fall by the Wayside...He's Now Laying the Groundwork towards BYPASSING the CURRENT "Biggest" Fight he Could Have...

All the while, he's Insisting On ABSURD Amounts of Money, While CHERRYPICKING...

Fuck That...




REED:shit:

ps. & REED Didn't Say Shit about the PISS POOR Example Floyd has Set for Young, Black Men...

 

Another Thing,

Floyd will DEFINITELY Lose that "0" @ Some Point....He's ALREADY Needed Golden Boy to Bail his Ass OUT of Tax Troubles TWICE...No Matter How Much "Money" Mayweather is Making, he'll Eventually BLOW it All...& When he Does, he'll Make an Ill Advised Comeback...




REED:dancingBaby:

 

I hope he fights Amir Khan and gets laid out cold. It would serve him right.

 

Nah, that's one fight where i'd be cheering for floyd, unreservedly

 

I don't know if i'd exactly be cheering for Floyd, but if or when he loses i wouldn't want Con to be the man who defeats him.

 

Actually I would love if it was KHAN who takes FLOYD "0".........then immediately in his next fight he goes back to getting KO'ed by Garcia and Prescott of the world...

 

agREED...

Khan Already HAVE Losses....Khan Already HAVE KO Losses...Honestly, WHO HAVE Khan Beat???...

If Floyd Ended Up LOSING to a Guy as VULNERABLE as Amir Khan, that'd Be SWEET, Poetic, Pugilistic JUSTICE...




REED:dancingBaby:

 

Exactly.

 

same... for the good of the game, a real craftsman carving up a boxbot leaper

 

which is why I have never gone along with that drained stuff

 

Precisely. the art of boxing vs boxbot philistinism

 

some really can't

Emile Griffith, Ezzard, Archie, Ali, etc. ... some are just beyond reproach on any imaginable level

 

I agree with all of this to an extent, but beating Mosley coming off of a big win over Margarito is worth mentioning. The way he beat Marquez at 147 was impressive as hell as well.. all the steroids in the world wouldn't make Marquez competitive against Floyd. Cotto was a decent win as well, considering the styles mesh especially.

 

Agreed on Mosley and Cotto. Solid wins.

Not on Marquez. The bolded part basically tells the story. Terrible style mismatch.

 

I guess that's a good point. It's basically an impossible style matchup for Marquez, with the size & speed difference especially so.

 

Yeah, i couldn't for the life of me see how Marquez could beat Floyd. Mayweather was/is better at basically everything, and to top it of off he was bigger. Even if Marquez had Tommy Hearns power he'd still be relegated to having a puncher's chance.

 

Yeah I have to disagree on Marquez completely. Awful, awful style matchup. How the hell is a counter puncher/boxer supposed to do anything with a bigger, faster, rangier counter puncher/boxer with better defense?

It would be like a smaller pressure fighter going toe to toe with Duran, suicidal.

 

That's the thing, even if they were the same size he'd be better at everything about Marquez's own game, but to make it worse he also had size and physical talent on his side :: I'm guessing combination punching and guts is about the only thing Marquez has over Floyd.

 

If the first Floyd/JMM fight didn't happen, I bet we'd all want to see Floyd against this rippling, juiced version of Marquez.

 

Pretty much. Take the Chavez even at his best and put him against the 147 pound Duran. Perhaps Chavez has a better chin or a left hook to the body. Even those "advantages" even if you stipulate to them, amount to piss in the ocean.

 

Want to see it? Sure. Figure Marquez has a legit chance? No.

 

if marquez and mayweather jr were the same size marquez would win by KO

 

If the possibility existed of Mayweather losing..he would just avoid that fight entirely. Is Marquez a PPV star? Are his bills paid? I pay mofo to drink my urine?

 

he would have to land a punch to do that, wouldn't he? i don't remember him doing that in his fight with floyd.

 

he landed flush punches here and there against mayweather jr that commonly hurt/drop his typical opponents and change the course of fights.

marquez is simply a better/greater and more accomplished fighter than mayweather jr.

 

It's also worth mentioning that Mosley was 38 and he was actually coming off a 16 month layoff when he fought Mayweather. Folks keep trying to gloss that over, but it matters when putting that win in the proper perspective. Just because the two fights appear one after the other on BoxRec doesn't negate Mosley's long layoff.