Floyd Owns the UFC part 2

Mayweather - Pac will do well over 2 million buys guaranteed. My sources only list UFC 100 as doing 1.6 million buys.

http://mmapayout.com/2009/12/ufc-establishes-new-mark-for-ppv-buys-in-2009/

 

Again, if you are putting those fighters in with elite fighters, it is the elite fighters who are the draw, and not those fighters.

And once again you've shown you are completely incapable of having an intelligent conversation without resorting to childish insults and name calling. That's all fun in TAAA, but when you do it here, all it shows is that you know your points lack merit, so you have to hide behind foolish insults.


TFK

 

I find it absolutely hysterical that Reed thinks any poster who supports MMA is an alias.

TFK

 

Has REED Accused Godfather or Z of Being an ALIAS???...Didn't Think So...Sorry, but when a Guy has 60 Posts, 90% of which R MMA Related, yet he Passes Himself Off as a "Boxing Fan", it's Kinda OBVIOUS...



REED:mj:

 

I check his IP, he's not an alias of any other member.

Really Reed....you're just getting desperate now.


TFK

 

Yawn:boohoo:...

NO WAY the Same Poster can have 2 DIFFERENT IP Addy's, Huh???...R U PLAYING DUMB or R U GENUINELY that Way???...



REED:dunno:

 

Really Reed, you need to lay off the pipe. The shit's got you paranoid.


TFK

 

I can't get into that shit either. I'm not cool with watching 2 cats roll around in speedos. That shit makes me puke in my mouth every time I see it. Anyways to each it's own. If that's what dudes are into these days. It's kinda like dudes wearing those damn skinny jeans. I'll Holla 5000

 

Brotha Reed,

We are talking about Dana WHITE and TFKKK. You know the rest is history. I'll Holla 5000

 

If the UFC is better run then it wouldn't have a street fighter and a WWE fighter as it's 2 biggest draws. It's biggest draws would have been created by them not youtube and the WWE. Dana White even said Kimbo is a fraud. Now he is promoting him like the second coming. In boxing we call a spade a spade. In MMA you can call shit gold and the kids will believe anything and everything that Dana has to say.
Mayweather-Pac might or might not happen but MMA fans can't say nothing when Fedor-Lesnar isn't happening either considering thats the biggest fight which can be made in MMa right now.

 

Yes but it's a pretty potent bit of gay, afterall, there are ways in MMA to render even the most iron-chinned boxer unconcious.

 

Ufc don't relase their PPV buys. Insiders say that the UFC 100 buyright is bs.

 

Just when I think you can't embarrass yourself any further, you go and prove me wrong.

Well done.


TFK

 

What's funny and also a bit sick really, is if the UFC really has netted half a billion a year, paying their top fighters peanuts compared to top boxers.

 

Boxing pays their stars Millions upon Millions thus they only have to fight once or twice a year, Like the Marvelous one said, "It's real hard to get up at 5am & run 5 miles when you're in a 4 post bed wearing silk pajamas".

Once again the way UFC is run :shit: on the way boxing is run. Paying these fighters THIS much money is ridiculous, seriously 10 million for ONE fight? No wonder they can pick and choose who they will fight next.

 

This isn't about boxers getting too much, this is about MMA fighters getting too little.

I respect almost all pro fighters, it takes a lot of courage and dedication. Some of the fighters in the UFC, even decent fighters, get paid such a shit purse it doesn't even pay for their training and medical expenses. Are you OK with that? Do you think that's fair?

 

Yeah, the guys on the non-televised undercards are the ones making peanuts. But they are getting an opportunity to prove themselves to the UFC and earn higher paydays and PPV fights.

Do you think the undercard guys on major boxing PPV's are making any more money than the UFC guys? When Floyd is making $30 million for a fight, do you think the guys in the opening bout are making more than maybe a thousand or two?

Plus, a UFC fighter's income is more than just their pay for fighting. They get bonuses, they get royalties whenever their fights are replayed on TV, which is all the time, plus they get royalties when they sell DVD's, and every UFC PPV is released on DVD. They get paid for video games, collectable figures, appearances on TV, they put on clinics at MMA gyms, etc, etc, etc.

If the UFC's pay was so bad, you wouldn't have 99% of MMA fighters trying their damndest to fight for them.

Do the elite UFC fighters make the obscene amounts the elite boxers make? Not even close. But the bottom and mid-level guys are probably much closer than most people realize.

TFK

 

You originally said "paying their top fighters peanuts compared to top boxers".

But if we're talking about MMA only, then the top MMA fighters get around 450,000 per fight, not exactly peanuts if you ask me, two fights a year and you're close to a million dollars. Yeah, I'll grant you they usually can't own 40 cars, 6 homes, buy Bengal Tigers, Fur coats, etc. but a better living than most, that's for sure. The money earned in the ring is NOT ALL they make, they get more free shit than a rich Doctor or any average Joe would get because of their celebrity status.

 

That's not remotely true, how many MMA purses have you seen. The elite of the elite get 450,000 maybe, for a decent fight.

There are many fighters that you'd consider to be a "top" fighter, even if not elite, that only make 50,000 to 100,000 per fight.

In the grand scheme of things, it's not exactly peanuts no, but compared to boxing it is. And while there is an argument that boxers could be getting paid TOO much, there is no doubt MMA fighters should get paid more.

 

Well I know that even though they don't get much, on the low end, non televised scale, the fighters still get more in boxing, even if it's just the difference between 1000 and 2000 - usually.

Also, take a fighter like Keith Jardine. Can you imagine a boxer as well known as him, that's sort of borderline world class getting 20,000 per fight?

That's just not right TFK.

And I'd just like to state, this isn't me talking as a boxing fan, this is me talking as an MMA fan and someone who respects pro fighters in generally.

Simply put, they deserve more.

 

Yeah which is it. If they doing these great numbers than they are more corrupt than UFC groupies claim Don King to be.

 

You get paid on what you draw. If you sell hundreds of thousands on PPV and have a live gate in the millions you deserve to make the money, the fighters are the attractions. Your theory makes no sense other than to ironically agree with everything the UFC says or does.

 

This argument is which is run better, the UFC or boxing and I can't see how it's even close. People keep bringing up the UFC can't put together Fedor and Brock, really? So blame the UFC because they can't put someone WHO'S NOT EVEN IN the UFC against someone who is? :: Hell boxing can't even get their two biggest stars in the SAME SPORT AND WEIGHT CLASS, in the ring for FORTY MILLION DOLLARS ::.

The only argument coming from "true boxing fans ::" here on this board seem to be that I love Dana or am an alias. ::

 

Keith Jardine is not borderline elite. GSP is elite. Fedor is elite. Anderson Silva is elite. Keith Jardine is a good fighter who can be hit (win against Liddell, strong in a loss vs Rampage) or miss (Knocked silly by a washed up Wandy, KO losses to Thiago Silva and Houston Alexander). But he's nowhere near elite or world class.

And the top guys in the UFC make more than $450,000 per fight.

http://www.fightline.com/news/2007/1017/randy_couture_305488.shtml

TFK

 

http://mmajunkie.com/news/4248/more-money-than-meets-the-eye-in-the-ufc.mma

TFK

 

Hey, I never said Jardine was borderline elite, of course he's not. He's borderline world class though, they kind of guy that is regularly an opponent for world class fighters, and wins the odd fight, or sometimes gives world class fighters a tough fight.

A boxer on the level of Jardine, how much do you think he'd make TFK? You know he is going to be making considerably more than 20 grand.

Regardling Lidell - one of the stats is wrong then. The stats that Hanzy always used to post from the UFC PPV figures listed Lidell's purses as being under a million. Either Hanzy's source is wrong, or that article is wrong.

 

Keith Jardine is nowhere near world class. He's a good fighter who either looks good winning or makes someone else look good losing. He has a pretty exciting style and makes for fan friendly fights. He's one of those fighters that will probably always have a job in the UFC....but he's nowhere near a world class fighter.

And who were Hanzy's 'sources'?


TFK

 

Good point bigdawg. Cage fighting, like skinny jeans, is trendy right now.

When the next trend comes along, we'll see how the skinny jeans of combat sports holds up.

 

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