Floyd scheming his way out out of fighting Pacquiao....#3,340,432

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  1. whiskey

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    Don't get Muzse started on Harry Wills. A lot of men think their grandsons are the greatest thing ever.
     
  2. ILLUMINATI

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    Yeah, Arum DOES Need to just SHUTthefuckUP at this Point...

    It's like the More Floyd Makes it Clear he Doesn't Want Arum Involved and the More BOTH Sides Say they'd like to Negotiate Away from the Media, the MORE Arum has to SAY to the Media...

    Floyd's Still a Bitch for Ducking PAC all these Years, but Admittedly, it's Starting to Look like Arum DOESN'T Want the Bout to Happen Either...


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    if you are willing to accept Arum is an (the) impediment now what was different at anytime the past 5 years?
     
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    Now everything is just gravy to sell the fight if and when it happens. People get riled up at Arum, furious at Mayweather, more money in the end.

    The only problem will be if one uses the excuse that the other impeded the richest fight to ever happen, then WE decide to move on the Floydcott if the fight never happens...:rock1::hammert:
     
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    Because Now that Floyd has RUN OUT of Excuses & SEEMS to Be Ready to Make the Fight Happen (FINALLY), Arum's INSISTENCE on Running Off @ the Mouth, Even when his OWN Promotional Company is Advising him to SHUTthefuckUP, Makes it Plausible that he In Fact DOES NOT Want the Bout to Happen...

    Arum's Presence has Obviously Been LOWERED in this Instance & Undoubtedly his % Would Be as Well...Yet he's Still TEASING the Public w/Tidbits that AREN'T Panning Out, Pissing Off BOTH Sides of the Negotiation, in the Process...It's Beginning to Look like Self SABOTAGE, in REED's Honest Opinion...

    To be Clear, this DOES NOT Absolve Floyd from Flat Out DUCKING Pacquiao the Other 133 Times the Bout was There for the Taking, Though:nono:...But in THIS Instance, Floyd APPEARS to Be Making MORE of an Effort than he EVER Has Before, While Bob Arum's Going AGAINST the agREED Upon Pact to Keep ALL Negotiations IN-HOUSE...





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    So Arum being an asshole would be a valid excuse for Floyd to nix the fight?

    For a guy with such a big fucking mouth, Floyd sure is a sensitive lad.
     
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    Arum is an admitted liar. Why anyone believes anything he says in regard to anything is mind boggling.

    The fact that he is negotiating in the media is not the problem as much as its clear he is simply flat out lying
     
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    read carefully and try to follow along, buscape.

    Mayweather jr may hate bob arum and not want to work with the guy, but you better believe the feelings are a lot worse on the other side. Arum was surely upset when Delahoya left him to start his own operation, but prior to that top rank made several large paydays on his PPVs. In fact, he made more than Delahoya did on the trinidad fight since Delahoya took a flat fee with no PPV upside. Mayweather jr was on the cusp and Arum never really capitalized on the work it took to build the guy up to super star status. He is obviously bitter about that.

    Now, with his claws in pacquiao, he is making nice paydays on these pay per views. You think Arum doesnt have a sweet deal in place with his buddy Steve Wynn when Pacquiao fights in China? Arum is making alot of money every time pacquiao fights. He may not be robbing the guy as badly as Murad Muhammad was, but he is still cashing in. We simply dont know to what extent. It may be that Arum stands to make more having Pacquiao fight scrubs in China than he does as a joint promoter (where he isnt even really needed) for a mayweather jr fight.

    We simply dont know what his motivation is, whether it is even in his best interests to make the fight happen. It may benefit him to simply have the fight talked about, and try to sway public opinion that his guy is being avoided. That way pacquiao gets press and his stock is boosted. Where as, if he takes a one sided L then he becomes less of a draw.
     
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    Pulling an Ali...if buscape is good then I'm that...lol
    He stands to make way more from this one fight and a possible rematch then with anybody else out there. It will benefit both FIGHTERs numbers now and in the near future because Pacquaio is no Maidana and there won't be any one sided win on either side. And after they are done with each other, whenever that is, their numbers will be boosted by their fight when they fight someone else...

    The time to make this fight is NOW, regardless what anybody is saying, whether it's Floyd relaxing at a beach or an over 80 promoter... The world wants this fight NOW and will be pretty darn pissed if they fight anybody other than each other.
     
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    I think to have a promoter like Arum, when you are at Pac's level in the sport, is ridiculous.
     
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    I dont disagree that the fight will benefit pacquaio financially. I question whether and how much it benefits Arums pockets
     
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    Certain Fighters get to a Point Where They're BEYOND Needing a Promoter. Pacquiao and Floyd are BOTH @ that Phase of their Careers...


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    Pac and arum are scared bitch hoes
     
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    On the public tv here (cbc), they've announced the fight is official and will be held on may 2 nd in Las Vegas. I don't how reliable the report is.
     
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    Not reliable, arum is a scared hoe and doesn't want his cash cow to get sodomized
     
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    Fighters don't get beyond needing a big time promoter, but they should be playing them against each other to get the best deal.

    You don't need to pay a broker 6% to sell your mansion when you have multiple buyers lined up already. Likewise, promoters don't need their typical cut when a fighter starts out with a fan base that removes risk for the promoter.
     
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    "Sorry dudes, the reason I didn't fight Pacquiao is that I'm just not a big fan of Arum :dunno:"
     
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    The fight will happen when the networks reach an agreement. Everyone else is a bit player. Arum, Mayweather, Haymon nor Pacquiao is putting up money to stage the fight.

    Mayweather not wanting Arum involved is ridiculous.

    Arum running his mouth every other day is ridiculous.
     
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    It was my understanding A deal with the networks has already been reached.
     
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    by the way, i hope somebody is video recording every aspect of this. It would make one hell of a documentary.
     
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    it has but according to those sources still 2 major huddles to clear that doesnt include purse split or venue so what can it be? as much as Floyd is trying to prove he wants to make the fight by leaking these vids of his meeting with Paq it still reeks of him wanting something like Manny sign to TMT promotions or something ridiculous .

    fuck your brand Floyd lets make this fight
     
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    Floyd wants a re-match clause and an 80/20 split if he loses.


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    Word on the street is this fight is being held up by Floyd's insistence on Special Olympic style drug testing. :pathetic:



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    To summarize this, we all agree arum and pac are scared bitch hoes and Floyd is trying to make the fight. Funny thing Is boxing wise...it's not even a good fight IMO.floyd sodomizes him and everyone knows it that's why it hasn't happened
     
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    Okay so this is not made yet, I guess we can go back to looking forward..............looking forward to Protestnikov vs Matthyse.
     
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