Floyd scheming his way out out of fighting Pacquiao....#3,340,432

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  1. ILLUMINATI

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    I definately agree that Les Moonves being involved is very significant, given the recent decline in PPVs. I think that CBS will "insist" that Floyd fights Pac despite his reservations about Arum/Pac etc.

    Well I wouldn't go as far as Tyson/Lewis. Tyson by his own admission did not even train for the fight and was almost a decade past his prime. I think the fight still has cache, especially given the current climate of elite fighters in the sport. Floyd/Manny are still the top 3 P4P fighters in the world (unless you want to argue Rigondeaux or inactive Ward).
     
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    While I'd agree that the fight was bigger 5 years ago, It's pretty ridiculous to compare it to Lewis/Tyson

    These are still 2 of the top 5 fighters in the sport... I don't see how anyone could argue otherwise. This is still obviously a huge fight

    Mike Tyson was a used up sideshow by the time Lewis/Tyson happened... there's no comparison
     
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    Agreed, there's no comparison at all. Tyson was a shell of his former self when he fought Lewis, and Lewis was still pretty much prime.

    Floyd and Pacquiao are both late 30's now, they are obviously not as good as they were 5 years ago. But somehow, they are still 2 of the top 3 fighters in the sport. I guess because that are that good, that even past prime, they're still a level above almost everyone else.

    My only fear is like a lot of megafights, it will be a disappointment, and possibly a bit of a business transaction/sparring session.

    Pacquiao is more sensible now, and actually more of a boxer. He's not the fiery beast that trounced Barrera, so he's not going to be in Floyd's face for 12 rounds.

    And Floyd is obviously cautious by nature, he'll be extra cautious against someone as good as Pacquiao.
     
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    Evidently, that bout with Cancer and Aids that Lewis had between 2002 and 2003 did him no good at all :lol:
     
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    The point was/is it's not as big as it was five years ago the same as Lewis-Tyson wasn't as relevant as it would have been five years prior. We've seen Manny lose and KTFO in the five year timeframe the fight should have happened.

    Floyd (Lemmon in this scenario), remains the #1 fighter despite signs of obvious slippage.

    Manny (Tyson in this scenario), isn't a sideshow but isn't what he was.

    It's more of a casual fan fight in my opinion.
     
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    I figure Pacquaio's still one of the top 5 fighters on the planet right now and Floyd is as well, clearly... When two figthers of that stature match up, it's more than a casual fan fight to me... It's not the must-have, era-defining match it would have been 5 years ago but it's still clearly one of the very best matchups that can be made in boxing right now
     
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    Only when he's let out of his cage.
     
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    I think it will happen and I STILL think it will be a mismatch but I'm hoping I'm wrong and it will be. A good fight

    Pad has too many flaws for someone as good as Floyd
     
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    Maidana did give Floyd a tough fight and he's more flawed than Pac.
     
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    Agreed.....but its like saying Marciano is more flawed than Mike Spinks and thinking that Spinks would give young Mike Tyson a harder fight accordingly.
     
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    Cotto vs Alvarez is dead.

    Cue Cotto vs Mayweather II, May 2nd.
     
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    Damn.
     
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    makes sense for cotto. more money for him and the alvarez fight is still there if he loses. if he wins theres a 3rd fight with mayweather jr AND alvarez
     
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    Shocking.
     
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    I guess both fighters (especially Floyd) can't milk the public longer with those other fights.

    Kudos to Showtime if they are forcing Floyd's hand.
     
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    Wilder might have forced Floyds hand a bit tonight.

    Floyd won't like the love Wilder is going to get.

    After all, we got a BRAND NEW CHAMP AND HE'S FROM THE USA.......and Floyd will see this and become very unsettled.

    He is just childish enough to throw a shit-fit and fight Pacquaio to steal some of Wilders shine.
     
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    Cotto/Alvarez dead doesn't mean no pac/Mayweather fight. In fact, it's a necessary condition for it to happen given Floyd's next fight is scheduled for may.
     
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    The only problem with that is that we've seen that fight already. Been there done that. Are you seem to be forgetting Pacquaio stopped Cotto?

    We want to see Floyd deal with Pacquaio, then we could start with rematch talks.

    Beat Manny , make $120 million plus then fight Cotto for a lot less.

    SIGN the contract biotch!
     
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    mayweather jr would make a lot of money against cotto. i do not believe a fight with pacquiao will occur. if it were to happen pacquiao would have less success than cotto did. watch and see. if not lets see pacquaio fight cotto at 154lbs

    you may find this amusing fighter, after golovkin KOd rubio we saw dibella at the home depot center leaving the fight and asked him about cotto- vs alvarez. his response was " alvarez would win IF they had legitimate drug testing"

    an indictment on the roach camp?
     
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    I've always believed this would be a mismatch.

    Save for a resurgence in power dating back to the Hatton and Cotto fights, I can't see Manny winning.
     
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    Mismatch my arse. They both have qualities to trouble the other.
     
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    Floyd-Pac might be announced at this years Super Bowl. What a way that would be to announce their fight with MILLIONS upon MILLIONS glued to their TV sets.
     
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    That would be GENIUS.....instead of doing some dumb/lame press conference.....n make it all dramatic n shit......have HBO produce the damn thing...
     
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    They'd probably recall Larry Merchant for it.
     
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    The last Superfight...and...Oscars "Make You Stop" Shoulders!

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    Agreed. I don't see this as a mismatch, especially at this point in their careers. Floyd in particular has slowed down, and Pac is still fast enough to catch him with shots.

    Whether he has the hunger and fury to attack him the way he would need to is another question.

    50-50 fight for me.
     
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    Pac's angular attack and movement would no doubt be problematic for mayweather. Also, pac's willingness to trade punches and finish exchanges.
     

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