Floyd single-handedly ruins boxing.....

Well, I agree but I think Pea was maybe the best ever. I think FLoyd hits harder though

 

And he didn't hold or touch his forehead to the ground so that he couldn't be hit. He just slipped, ducked and dodged.

 

I love MMA and I love toughman too..

but I also love seeing pure boxers having their way like that.. just SCHOOLING!

if you have boxed and fought a guy like that it is very frustrating.. to have a guy you can not hit and just stays relaxed and dominates..

 

I just didn't see the schooling some of you saw. I saw Floyd doing very little and being defensive the whole time and giving away rounds to Oscars activity. It didn't have to be a close fight, obviously Floyd is the better boxer, but he cannot fight guys this big, he's on the defense too much and he loses rounds just because he does nothing.

 

We're both indulging in speculation.
That's what opinion is.
As such, your claim in itself is far from being indubitable.
All, that was "proved" was that PBF on that night was given the decision against that version of DLH on that night.

 

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Amen brother the pea was it!!:bears:

 

I disagree. When Whitaker was facing fighters past his prime at 147 and 154, he actually had knockouts (especially that brutal one on Hurtado), and a KNOCKDOWN on a young DLH (yes I know it was a positition thing, it counted :tease:) .


But I will also say that the "he didn't win the way he should have" talk about Mayweather's win over DLH shows our overall immature mentality. I'm not aware of other sports where somebody wins and the fans complain in that particular way. Ref calls, hometown bias, etc I understand, but let me know when we start saying "sure they won the NBA Finals, but all they did was shoot threes. A REAL championship team would've gone to the line more.:dunno:"

 

Not that I want to make a habit of complimenting Floyd, but he did actually buckle Oscar at one point.

 

later in life Pea HAD to hit harder cuz you lose your speed.

I had and still have Pea WINNING the DLH fight

but I think Floyd has pretty good POP in his shots... Pea didnt seem to have as much steam on them (in general)

The hurdado fight was great, over the course of his career though he was not a real hard puncher

 

Shhh! Careful, or someone might believe that :warning:

I think he stunned DLH, but Floyd just ran, so he couldn't have done that. He ruins boxing.

 

I don't think Floyd really ran. I think he uses some borderline illigal tactics though and a lot of them. The elbow and the bend over until nothing is showing but his back move.

 

:bears: done!

 

GTFO with the accolades he gets. This was an overrhyped piece of shit PPV and Floyd didn't fight like the champ he claims to be. I will repeat this as many times as you want to repeat yours Another terrible analogy using a team sport, terrible.

 

So if beating an opponent doesn't cut it, what does a boxer has to do to be called better than him? ::

 

The point is that he fact that he barely squeeked by a past prime DLH who had fought once in 2 yrs. That does not make prime PBF a better fighter than prime DLH. There is a thread over @ boxing fanatics about who is the greater fighter in their respective primes. It's fairly even, depending on which weight they would fight at.
Lewis DESTROYED Tyson. To say that Tyson was further removed from his prime than DLH is would be an understatement, but Lewis annihilated him. That doesn't mean everyone thinks that Lewis is better than Tyson prime v prime. Opinion is divided. That's because opinions aren't facts. They are speculation. There are many more examples. Hopefully you see my point.

Opinions are speculative. You can speculate, based on PBF squeezing past a past prime DLH who had fought once in 2 yrs, that he would also beat a prime DLH. I didn't see much in his performance to indubitably suggest that.
Similarly, based on PBF squeezing past a past prime DLH who had fought once in 2 yrs, I see no reason to speculate that he is in the same league as SRL, Hearns & Hagler (as some have suggested).
In fact, squeaking by a past prime DLH who had fought once in 2 yrs in the way that he did is not enough for me to consider him any better than a touch below DLH, Tito & possibly Mosley.
By the way, that still makes him a damn good fighter. Trouble is, he & his fans carry on as though he is an all-time great. His performance on sat night did not indicate as much.
Could you imagine what a prime SRL, or Hearns would have done against the DLH that was in the ring against PBF?

PBF was judged to be the winner against a past prime DLH who had fought once in 2 yrs via split decision. That's the fact. That's all that we can say as a fact. Everything else is opinion. (speculation).

 

I warned you mofo's......more to come. Spinx/Taylor is just the tip of the iceburg. Here me now, believe me later :flip:

 

Yeah. Curse Floyd Mayweather for inventing boxing on the outside. :dunno:

 

.....while his head on the floor and his back in front of him while skating around the ring to avoid fighting :bears:

 

What the fuck do you think boxing is? Joe Frazier bobbed his head even worse - used it to set up the headbutt. Mayweather easily handled Oscar in the middle of the ring; he only ran to keep from getting trapped on the corner. Didn't you watch the fight?

 

The only thing I know, people are complaining about the VERY thing Floyd does to win, on Taylor and Spinks.

This tells me their undying love for Floyd clouds their judgement. All I am saying is, wakeup people. You want people to just do enough to win, then you guys need to start liking these kind of fights instead of bitching about them. Floyd showed the roadmap to win. Taylor and Spinks tried to follow the map, ONLY they didn't fight in a "Superfight" :nono:

They need more slack, or join the bandwagon :stir:
Those are your only two options :bears:

 

But why not blame Muhammad Ali? :dunno:

 

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I will grant you that his performances against DLH and Baldomir were just flat out disgraceful. He needs to fight guys like Cotto/Margarito/Hatton and forget about guys that are big and have some skill.

 

You forgot about Castillo 2. The cycle must be stopped and we must rise and say enough is enough. Unless you want to keep hearing about MMA compared to boxing. I will not be part of the farces anymore. I will protest in hopes the cott will grow and make a change opcorn:

 

I have supported Floyd for years, but enough is enough. He has great skills but I'd rather watch a show on bowel movements than Floyd fight nowdays. Add me to the bandwagon.

 

:bears: together we can make a change! Grass roots :blobbox:

 

So you dont appreciate boxing, you like brawling, brawling is easy, no skills in it at all...boxing is the name of the sport, moving, hitting without getting hit..Pernell Whitaker, Roy Jones, Floyd Jr, Sugar Ray Leonard, Ali, played a big part in making boxing what is is today, you have to appreciate their boxing skills, they spent their lives shaping their style into something they felt the world would appreciate. I give em all praise. Even though me myself have a boxer/brawler style!!

 

But haven't they learn..? THE WORLD doesn't appreciate their styles....:cheer: i can appreciate it but every now and then you gotta show some fucking balls...ali, leonard, whitaker all did it...

 

Why do you people insist on telling me what I like? Quit comparing fighters that actually TRY and win to Floyd who does just BARELY enough to win. You like that shit for a "superfight" then people like you are the blame for boxings death :flip:

 

No, they are just like Floyd :notallthere: