Floyd vs Cotto. It needs to be made!!

Discussion in 'General Boxing Discussion' started by slystaff, Jun 10, 2007.

  1. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack


    This is off topic, but has Floyd ever fought a guy who started his career at 147 or higher???? Baldomir, thats it, right??:dunno:
     
  2. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    its just your throwing too many extra scenarios to make it a competable fight for clootto, ooh what if this happens, and what if that happens, then cotto can win, yeah yeah yeah we cant predict the future floys could even loose to chavez jr, but in the real world, top form floyd vs top form cotto, cotto gets shut out, fuck all the worst case scenarios because those shouldnt even be taken into consideration, who says cotto have an off night, its not reasonable to speculate that far, floyd has shown no signs of regressing, so why even put that into the equation?
     
  3. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    i hope your not a gambler
     
  4. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    The weight had nothing to do with it really. Chico was simply not on Floyd's level, and couldnt handle movement. Floyd and Chico coulda fought 10 times and the result would always be the same. Cotto isnt the same calibre puncher that Chico was, but he applies better pressure, and therefore is more of a threat to Floyd.
     
  5. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    I never said cotto would win. Floyd would beat him, I just disagree that it would be a blow out for Floyd, and I cant see Floyd stopping him. Floyd hasnt put any punches together since he beat the Italian/French Canadian punching bag known as Gatti.
     
  6. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    I never questioned the outcome, or the disparity in talent or tactics, all I said was Flyds pressure game couldn't have worked if Diego was not drained. Would he have whupped him regardless, yes. Just not as easy and with different methods.
     
  7. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    it was downhill for gatti after that floyd ruined him like tito did vargas lol, im joking
     
  8. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    same fight, diego ass has to set his feet to throw a punch, a little less now, but back then it was worst, diego had similar problems first casa fight before he improved
     
  9. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    :eek: :doh:
     
  10. MassaCure

    MassaCure Undisputed Champion

    i had a joke but i wont use it, but u know what i mean, right before he passed
     
  11. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Yeah i know what you meant lol.
     
  12. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    no way. not even close
     
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  13. Neil

    Neil tueur de grenouilles

    I would. and easier than he beat judah
     
  14. Orthodox Crusader

    Orthodox Crusader "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    The thing about Oscar is that he always had shitty stamina. Take a guy with Shitty stamina and lay him off, and he gets even shittier.

    Cotto would beat Oscar in the morning.
     
  15. Roll With The Punches

    Roll With The Punches WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    if Mayweather doesn't fight Cotto then he has ducked him...plain and simply
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  16. Hex-One

    Hex-One "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Agreed! :bears:
     
  17. KaukipRrr

    KaukipRrr "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    Whoopti fucken doo, that's Judah's 3rd loss in a row,.. what's up next, Cintron / Judah for the IBF title?.. Like Pavlik / Miranda, when you beat an overrated fighter, you become overrated yourself, even Oktay Urkal proved a tougher foe for Cotto, Pauli Malignaggi proved a tougher foe aswell.
     
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  18. lb 4 lb

    lb 4 lb Fightbeat Gold Member

    Come on people, you have to look at the style matchups here and for those comparing Cotto to Castillo remember Castillo had a better size and reach advantage. Floyd would dominate Cotto, because the style is just wrong for Cotto. Cotto's never going to beat a world class guy like Floyd or Mosley simply because they're both tough enough to take his body attack while still throwing there own shots for 12 rds.

    Floyd could and likely would fight Cotto in the pocket and I wouldn't see him being bothered by Cotto's body shots until late in the fight, if Cotto even lasts that long. I believe Floyd is also smarter and mentally stronger than Cotto.
     
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  19. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

    frotto wouldnt win a round vs FLoyd

    I say Floyd SODOMIZES him
     
  20. TysonFan4Ever

    TysonFan4Ever Leap-Amateur

    Ahhhhh disgracia!!!

    COTTO! COTTO! COTTO!
     
  21. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    I agree. Stylistically Cotto is Floyd's worse counterpart. Floyd doesn't have the power to keep Cotto off of him. He has the footwork to deal with Cotto, but unless he increases his punch count he will take a lot of leather to deliver his accurate punches.
     
  22. dsimon3387

    dsimon3387 WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    dsimon writes:

    You cannot compare them... apples and oranges. JCC is a better comparison. The thing that makes Cotto effective is that he will get to you if you don't have the power to drop him. De La Hoya actually tried to fight Floyd ont he inside and could not do shit because he can't fight this way.
     
  23. LEGENDARY

    LEGENDARY Leap-Amateur

    Cotto would give DLH a hell of a fight if they met right now.

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  24. Explosivo

    Explosivo Undisputed Champion

    I just think that Floyd is the wrong style for Cotto. To compete with that kind of speed, you either have to A. Have similar or comparable speed.......or B. Have a superior jab that negates that speed to a degree. Cotto has neither, and, his height and reach wont allow him any advantage either.

    Cotto is tough, determined and persistent but I think that Floyd would beat him fairly easy, probbably by TKO.
     
  25. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    I beg to differ. Floyd has more power than given credit for. He'll hurt Cotto, make no mistake about that.

    Also, Cotto has the potential for a low punch output as well...if he fights an elusive guy like floyd.

    Floyd will win either way you look at it.
     
  26. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    In terms of action, I rather see Cotto-Mosley than Cotto-Mayweather.
     
  27. Explosivo

    Explosivo Undisputed Champion

    Exactly. Also, Mosley stacks up MUCH better against Floyd than Cotto does.
     
  28. slystaff

    slystaff Im Banned

    Cotto-Mosley would be an X - cellent fight!!! :eeeek:

    Guaranteed fight of the year IMO
     
  29. Baron

    Baron "Twinkle Toes" McJack

    People keep talking about handspeed, movement and such but Cotto has shown that he can deal with all of this. Also, Zab had faster hands than Cotto but the problem he faced is that Cotto punches with guys faster than him and since he's a very good combination puncher, he can get the better of the exchanges. That was Judah's main problem, even though he was faster, he could not throw the kind of Combos Cotto can throw, that made him hesitant. Floyd might face the same problems. Once Cotto get his timing, if Floyd sticks to throwing 1 shot at the time, no matter how fast it is, Cotto will punch with him. That's what DLH tried to do, but he isn't as fresh as he used to be, and it somewhat worked a little bit. Right now, Cotto is fresher, more accurate, has more stamina and throws better combos. His chin isn't an issue either. I'd say Cotto-Floyd is the best fight that can be made at 147. And those who say DLH would easily beat Cotto are delusional. DLH never beat a top WW easily, why would he start now at 34? Getting beat closely by Floyd didn't turm him into a powerhouse... :lol: He's still passed his prime.
     
  30. Trplsec

    Trplsec Sleeps in a Cage


    Best post yet... Mayweather-Cotto is a track meet with Floyd pot-shotting for 12 rounds and getting a close but somewhat clear decision..

    Mosley-Cotto, on the other hand, could be FOTY material.
     

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