Floyd vs Cotto. It needs to be made!!

No, he's not.

ALL he has at this point is power. His hand speed and reflexes have clearly diminished, and his feet are cement. Cotto at this point has better footwork and maybe even combinations that Hoya. Plus, Hoya basically quit three fights ago to a tap to the body, and in the fight before that should've lost to an average fighter. On top of that, Cotto in recent fights has shown better stamina than Hoya EVER did.

IMO, Mayweather would have to step up his game from the effort he gave vs. Hoya in order to beat Cotto.

 

I completely agree with you Sly. Earlier in his career I thought Floyd was a boring fighter but his later fights at 135 and especially the ones he had at 140 were beautiful exciting displays of him standing right in front of guys making them miss and then making them pay. He was not running, and not fighting with stink and it was very exciting.

Just look at some of his last fights like, Corley, Judah, Gatti, Mitchell, N'do. None of those fights were boring and I don't see why Floyd would need stink to beat a midget like Cotto. I doubt it would be boring.

 

For the same reason I like Mosely, they are precious to boxing, they are likeable personalities with tough, entertaining styles, and they conduct themselves in an appreciative and honourable manner to thier fans, by way of who they fight and how they fight.

Fraud Mayweather on the other hand, repetitively laughs and ridicules Shane through the media for not backhanding his wife,....I mean that's just a snippet of this arsehole, the list of reasons to hate him inside and outside of the ring is endless, but somehow the boxing universe is now revolving around him,..I think a better question is why do so many people like and support Fraud Mayweather?...:dunno: Lib four Lib?..

 

I disagree. I cannot see Cotto beating even this version of ODLH. Plus Cotto looked winded in the Judah fight a few times and was occasionally throwing some pretty sloppy looking shots. It was a very good performance from Cotto, but it wasn't flawless.

 

To a certain extent I only care what fighters do in the ring. Yeah Floyd is likely an asshole and Mosley seems like a great guy, but at the end of the day I don't know either one of them personally. I will say though, that I like the fact that Shane is such a nice fan friendly guy. It makes it that much cooler that he's such a beast in the ring.

 

I wonder though if Mayweather is willing to fight Cotto in New York. I remember how he didn't want to fight Castillo in Los Angeles because of the Mexican population and worries that the judges would be swayed (especially after the controversy of the first fight). I imagine it would be worse with Cotto in New York.

Mayweather will push hard in negotiations for the fight to take place in Vegas.

Supposedly Zab said during the press conference that Mayweather-Mosley is all but a done deal. :dunno:

I haven't heard anything about it, I hope that's true, but with a possible rematch between Mayweather and Oscar that would make serious $$$, I have my doubts. Plus I've learned not to get my hopes up too high when you hear of a big fight materializing, it's bound to let you down when the deal falls through.

 

Ludicrous!

 

What top Welter DLH beat with ease in his prime? Slystaff, I think you're hellbent on selling this version of DLH as a top fighter because Floyd just beat him. IMO DLH has clearly slipped even though he gave a good account of himself against Floyd.

 

Ludicrous?

DeLaHoya didn't stand almost entirely flatfooted in his last two fights?
Hoya didn't look like he quit to Hopkins?
Hoya deserved the decision over Sturm?

 

I'm not "hellbent" on anything. Do you, BARON, think that Cotto is a more formidable fighter than De La Hoya is right now?

I can't see Cotto destroying Mayorga the way Oscar did for example.

 

Would Cotto survive FIVE rounds against Hopkins, let alone 9?
Would Cotto even come close to beating Sturm at 160lbs?
Would Cotto suddenly become a dancing master if he fought Floyd?

THINK, dude, think!

Oscar is a far more dangerous fighter than Cotto is..even at 34 (which really isn't all that old)

 

Mayorga got caught for using diuretics after the DLH fight, that says a lot about his preparation and don't forget Tito beat the fuck out of him about a year before. And I think that Cotto is a better fighter right now than DLH. DLH is a part time fighter, he's isn't as fast as he was, he's flat footed, he lacks stamina... He isn't the same guy anymore and even in his prime, he struggled with all the top welters he fought. Cotto is in his prime, he has proved he can deal with a variety of styles, he throws great combos, can figure out the timing of most fighters and he's relentless. I doubt DLH could beat him at this stage of his career and I've got no doubt that he won't get in the ring with him. Cotto could stop him IMO.

 

You're the one that should think. Hopkins went easy on him and pretty much ran him out of the ring as soon as he started throwing. Sturm beat him, and don't forget he was stopped by the tough but limited Castillejo who isn't even a big puncher to begin with. And DLH didn't dance at all against Floyd, he barely moves nowadays.

 

:nono: But Fraud fans are still as wholesome and as vocal as ever after Baldomir and now De La Hoya. He seared the eyes of people giving boxing one last look at this struggling sport. His groupies rather strike me as getting a thrill out of his personal success, hence the thick threads filled with enquiries about how many seats he sells or how many ppv's he does,...and honestly, there's not much to like about his 'offense' in comparison to Mosely, Margarito or Cotto,..and in regards to his 'defense' aside all the running, what Fraud does actually exploits the rules and should be banned from use in a boxing ring. :dunno: Maybe they do like him because of his personality?

 

I could have sworn Floyd retired.

 

Cotto hit Zab Judah with everything but the kitchen sink and still took 11 rounds to do it (and Zab was stopped on his feet)....yet he's going to stop De La Hoya! I can't believe what I'm reading!! :doh:

 

COULD. That's the Keyword. DLH didn't seem to like being hit to the body against Hopkins and even against Floyd, who isn't known for his power.Against Cotto, he'd be hit there consistently, that's why I said that. Mosley was bothering him a lot too with bodypunches.

 

Mayweather's body shots troubled Zab, don't pretend otherwize....yet Zab took 11 rounds of body shots from Cotto....and wasn't stopped directly from body punching either.

Cotto aint gonna do shit to De La Hoya.

 

ridiculous

 

Come on Sly, you cannot really compare Floyd's bodypunching to Cotto's. Floyd jabs to the body and throw the occasional hook but most of the time, Floyd beats people with clean punches to the head. Floyd didn't win his fight against Judah because of bodypunching. He's not as committed to the body as a guy like Cotto. When Zab took a knee in the 9th, what do you think was bothering him?

Also, DLH isn't as commited to boxing as he used to be. You're overrating him.

 

Exactly.

 

But is Cotto's hunger so diminished at this point that he fucking QUITS from body shots?? That was my question.

And has Cotto ever been outboxed/outworked by a fragile non-puncher who gets KO'd by washed up, fattened up old journeymen?

And last time I checked, Hoya looked flatfooted against both Floyd AND Mayorga... so you can't put Hoya's cement legs down to Floyd alone, unless that was really Floyd he KO'd two fights ago wearing a Mayorga mask.

Hoya is ONLY more dangerous than Cotto in terms of one shot power. In recent fights with skilled/slick/talented boxers, Cotto has shown good footwork and boxing ability himself (better than Hoya has against the same style fighter), more head movement than Hoya (who usually stands straight up), and also a better and more consistent jab than Hoya, which is the punch Hoya had the most success with vs. Floyd, and quite a bit of it too. All that adds up to Cotto being a more dangerous opponent than Hoya at this point... especially for a fighter of Floyd's style, as he may not have the power and fire to take advantage of Cotto's chin, which is his one major weakness at this point.

 

Cotto is not in DLH 's league yet.. DLH would CRUSH him and Floyd would DESTROY him

 

Actually I'd love to see De La Hoya-Cotto... That would be entertaining..

Gee, wonder if Oscar might get hurt by a body shot...

 

Considering Floyd Fought DeLa ON Cinco de Mayo AND Wore a Sombrero to the Ring,REED Won't Question his AUDACITY...

If May Come Down to Negotiations,but REED Doesn't Think for a Second that Floyd would have Any TRUE Qualms about Facing Cotto N MSG,on the Eve of the Rican Day Parade...

Not Sure HOW Zab is the "Voice" of a Floyd-Shane Fight:: ,but HOPEFULLY it's True...Shane is the ONE Guy REED Wants Floyd to Fight,MORE than Anybody Else...

REED

 

You know, I have always felt Shane is the toughest fight out there for Floyd