Floyd wouldn't win a round vs. Paul Williams

wow....::

 

Idiotic thread.

 

Williams and Cintron should really fight it off...so who gets the next crack at the creamsssss in the division....Mosley, Cotto, Mayweather, DLH*though i think he is pulling rank on Mayweather and talking with Hatton people about a fight..DLH vs. Hatton..nice mismatch*

 

you think pbf beats williams? not a chance.

 

despite Sly's equuism, he's right on this one. Floyd is so much better than either of these guys, lets not get carried away that williams did well against Antonio "Molasses" Margarito. Shot Mitchell was landing lead pot shots against him because of speed an a decent grasp of feinting, neither of which tony has.

 

Looks like Phony is still on track with that fall beating. Hell why not, lets see it. Cotto-Margarita is Trinidad-Mayorga all over again.

 

Yes theres a chance.

 

How?

 

Dont mean to hijack this thread bama, but who do you guys think has faster hand and foot speed? Baldomir or Margarito?

 

Fixed.

That's what you had been saying for the last 3 years. What say ye now?

 

For all the Fraud nuthuggers,

HOW does Fraud beat Williams?

I have yet to see a plausible strategy for Fraud that is based on reality.

 

How does Williams beat Floyd? That's a better question.

The burden of proof is on the morons who'd pick Williams over the GREAT Floyd.

 

Williams has a good shot vs Floyd, but I hope we dont get carried away by Paul, cause on the Mythical Matchups over at Maxboxing, someone said Williams by UD over Hearns.:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

That's exactly the type of redirection I expect from Fraud fans because they KNOW there isn't any strategy based on reality where Fraud gets a W over Paul Williams.

 

Yeah let's hope no one gets carried away or we might read things like Margarito is a poor man's Mayorga.

 

No THIS THREAD is a misdirection from a Floyd Hater who cannot give a plausible strategy as to why Williams would beat Floyd.

Floyd is far more elusive than Williams, faster hands, better ring generalship, more POP and tougher overall. Williams advantages are all in height reach and southpaw style.

Tough match for Floyd, sure, but TOUGHER match for Williams.

 

That's all nice and all, but how is Floyd going to put his gloves on Williams pressing forward and only throwing 30-40 punches per round?

btw I'm not a Floyd hater, he's Pacquiao's biggest cheer leader.

 

Phony never beats a prime Forrest, I'll say that much.

 

well said.

 

Corrales' punch output against Castillo was enormous. Yet, Mayweather controlled him with very few punches per round (same could be said for guys like Castillo, Baldomir, Gatti, De La Hoya). When are people going to realize that FLOYD is the one who dictates the pace?

Floyd's movement, reflexes defense and ring smarts will force Williams to fight at a slower pace. It's easy to throw 1 millions punches against a stationary target like Mayorga.

By teh way...when Floyd fougth Ndou, Ndou threw over 100 punches in the 5th round, but Floyd won that round..UNDOUBTEDLY.

 

The Corrales fight happened at 130 when Floyd used to fight, at 147 his output is much lower and Paul is much bigger, quicker, and more active than Corrales. Ndou is not in either Corales or Williams class.

Williams also has a much more difficult style to contend with than Chico.

You have a shitty argument.

 

Williams throws lots of shots with his range and knows how to throw these offspeed punches, however he's not near as fast as floyd, he does however possess a difficult style for any welterweight to beat, one of the flaws that might get him sooner or later is his tendency to brawl on the inside when he should be using the gifts of height and reach he was given

 

So would I, but Floyd will never fight Williams.

 

floyd isnt a str8 up flat footed board like margarito u think hes just gonna stand there and get jabbed, he only landed 20% against a statue, what is he gonna land against floyd? use your fuckin brain man

 

Margarito would dwarf Fraud, but Williams towered over Margarito.

How do you suppose Fraud is going to get past all that artillery? :dunno:

 

Williams doesn't really seem to think in there, he can't counterpunch, he just goes out there with every physical advantage over his opponent and outworks him. I would love to see him fight a faster guy, someone who can counterpunch him.

 

footwork and timing, the fight isnt won at the weigh in and tale of the tape, what im telling you is williams isnt able to fire at will like that at a moving target, he will have to fight a more calculated fight, im not saying its an easy i like williams as well and his ability to fight inside as well

 

To sum this thread up is very simple:

Margarito fans "Floyd needs to fight Antonio to help clear up the division"
Williams fans "Paul's style would give Floyd nightmares and Floyd should fight him to prove his diversity"
Floyd fans "Floyd is the best in the world and shouldn't have to fight anyone to prove it"

It's actually pathetic to think a boxing fan doesn't care who his hero's competition is or doesn't really want to clear up the contraversy of who's best by anything other than imagination. Only in boxing is this possible!

 

Fraud's fights at 147:

Mitchell
Judah
Baldomir

Only one of those guys was a legit 147 pounder in terms of size and that guy had almost 10 losses.

How many punches per round did Fraud throw against Baldomir? He many minutes did he run? And you guys think he could get "inside" of Paul Williams artillery and that Fraud would push and press? :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

DELUSIONAL!!!!

 

dsimon writes:

Williams has good footwork, mayweather has incredible footwork. Williams has the reach the speed (for the sake of argument) and the output.

First problem: Williams could not land on a guy like Floyd. When he did he would get countered with straighter more accurate punches. Floyd would not stand out in front of Williams like Margarito, he would make Williams miss because of footwork and distancing. Williams did not have to even pursue Margarito! How is he going to do chasing after a guy who is ready to counter him and who is making him miss?

Second problem: Floyd is vastly underestimated in his style of counterpunching. He is actually very aggressive and is just out of reach, when he catches you it hurts because of the timing. He shut down Oscar;s jab with this counterpunching.

Williams would get combo'ed and spun into other punches when Floyd engaged him.

Floyd has dealt with the speed of Williams (Judah) with the power of Williams (williams has none) and punches a lot straighter than Williams (who punches at angles). You can't look at a fighter on Margarito's level and draw conclusions about Fraud gayweather whatever you think of him::. I do think Williams could beat Mosley.:dunno: