Floyd wouldn't win a round vs. Paul Williams

Hahahaha! :bears: Floyd is THAT good brother, you better recognize! Ali won rounds without ever throwing a punch well Floyd can win fights without ever getting into the ring.

 

Consider this a final warning..

 

Good post, backed with good punch stats.

Problem is you can interpret stats in many different ways.

I see those stats as this:

TRANSLATION: De La Hoya landed more than 1 hundred LESS of his punches on Floyd, than he did on Shane, and at a much lower connect percentage.

Floyd had a higher connect percentage against Oscar, vis a vis Shane.

 

sly, cut the crap...you know damn well shane's win was more impressive against oscar than floyd. don't know why muzse is wasting time addressing you (concerning mosley) anyhow...he, just like phonetap already knows what you are going to say.

 

It can be argued that Shane's win was more impressive because:

a) it was a more exciting fight
b) it was Oscar's first defeat without controversy
c) Shane was a slight underdog

"However" (Copywright Father of Muzse, 2007)

Sure Floyd looked very boring and uninspiring against an older and more defeated Oscar...but Floyd controlled Oscar more than Shane did, which is my point. Muzse's punchstats even confirm this.

 

This sums it all up so well. Floyd beats everyone ON PAPER! Let's see him really challenge himself in the ring though. He won't, he's Roy Jones ten fold.

 

Floyd did not control shit in that fight Sly. It was a freaking split decision. You swear Floyd diminated the fight. ::

 

Compubox means little, I always question the accuracy of it.

Shane's first win over Oscar was CLEARLY more impressive than Floyd's win over Oscar.

 

Exactly. No comparison.

 

The first Oscar-Mosley fight was a Split decision too.

 

Yeah and I'm not claiming anyone dominated like you are. Just that it was more impressive than Floyds peck and run victory.

 

Only in the CONTEXT which was that it was Oscar's first defeat (without the help of the judges) and Shane was the underdog.

Floyd was EXPECTED to beat Oscar and that is why his performance draws much criticism.

HOWEVER....

if we merely compare both fights without looking at the context surrounding them...Floyd beat Oscar more clearly than Shane did.

 

More impressive in terms of the fact that it was a high action fight...I agree with you...but Floyd won more rounds, objectively speaking than Shane did, IMO.

 

No, Shane's was clearly more impressive.

Oscar in 2000= 27 years old, active, in/very close to his prime
Oscar in 2007= 34 years old, past his prime, 1 fight in the last 31 months.

Results= Oscar loses 8-4 both times.

I give Floyd some credit because he still beat a fighter who's one of the top fights of this era (and is not shot, merely past his prime), and also b/c I think Floyd really has no business @ 154 (we've seen from other fighters, like Oscar, what happens when you're at a weight class you don't belong).....but it wasn't really a very impressive win at all.

Floyd's definitely going to need to do more in the future to stand out from the other top fighters of this era.

 

They were both SD's but Floyd won more rounds? ::

I'm sure he did, on your card. I'm sure he's never lost a round on your card.

 

On my cards,

Floyd lost four (possibly 5) rounds against Castillo in their first fight, 4 in the rematch, four against Oscar in their fight, 3 against Jesus Chavez in their fight, 3 against Coza and 4 against Zab in their fight. Other than that I can't for the life of me remember another round he lost in his career!

 

It's a good thing your card doesn't mean shit! ::

 

FUCK YOU

YOU WILL NEVER WARN ME UNDERSTAND HORSE?

 

dsimon writes:

I have a boxing prediction... jaws will be getting banned today. He has fired a shot over the bowe... Sly responded with a cease and desist order. Jaws has now fired another shot over the bowe... it is on,

War Sly and Jaws!!

 

the day I am banned by Sly is the day Sly loses his mod powers.

 

How did Floyd control Oscar more than Shane did when Shane HIT Oscar more than Floyd did?

the very fact that Oscar hit Shane more than he hit Floyd is attributed to two things...

1). Shane risked more than Floyd.

2). Oscar was seven years OLDER when he fought Floyd.

Even with those variables, Shane STILL landed 70+ MORE punches than Floyd landed.

No one can logically argue that Mayweather was more impressive when he risked less, threw less and landed less against a much older version of De La Hoya than Mosley did.

I know you take ridiculous positions from time to time for the sake of arguing, but we all know this isn't one of those times.

 

Floyd cried after beating Gatti. Nuff said.::

 

If you think Floyd only lost 4 rounds in the first Castillo fight, you're sick in the head.

I scored that first fight a draw.

 

You're arguing with Sly an admitted Floyd nuthugger.

 

::

Manuel Gomez just destroyed Fraud's Legacy at 140. :laughing:

 

Fraud said he was going "to punish Dela Hoya, make him quit."

I think he was trying to punish fans more and make them "quit" like they did in the Baldomir fight. It's almost UNHEARD of to see people leaving in droves in the the middle of a world championship fight. ::

 

If you scored that first fight a draw, YOU are sick in the head.

Floyd won the first four rounds, the 8th, 10th and 11th. MINIMUM!

 

Didn't Floyd lose a point in the 10th or 11th for using his forearms?

That makes it a 9-9 round.

Castillo lost a point in the 7th or 8th (a round he won).

 

Floyd won the 8th (regardless of harold Lederman's card) AND Castillo was deducted a point. Makes that a 10-8 round for Floyd.