Indeed. I like Vitali - he was tough and game and obviously a huge guy who threw a lot of punches - but his best performance is a loss to an ATG in his last fight who was unmotivated and twenty pounds overweight. He gets a lot of leverage for being stopped in that fight, and for dealing with the bums he had put in front of him in the manner you would expect from someone who is supposed to be very good. Apart from toughness, size and ramrod straight punching, I'm not really sure what attributes he has to suggest he beats the very best. And Frazier is one of them. MTF