GSP Injured---Not Fighting at UFC 137...

MY THOUGHTS ON THE FIGHTS

Brandon Vera def. Eliot Marshall - A totally boring and forgetful fight.

Donald Cerrone def. Dennis Siver - Cerronoe was just absolutely impressive. I was already intrigued just listening to them talk about his last few fights and wasn't surprised when he went in there and made himself look like he was on another level. I'm already a fan.
Scott Jorgensen def. Jeff Curran - Close fight. Was an okay bout and very evenly matched.
Hatsu Hioki def. George Roop - Kind of boring fight. Hioki probably is better than he showed tonight going off what the commentators said and like Azazel said I don't see how he won tonight. Right before they annonuced the decision, I had just got through asking a guy here do MMA guys get robbed in judging like in boxing.

Roy Nelson def. Mirko Filipovic - Good job by Nelson and real classy by showing his respect to the aged Cro Crop who didn't do himself any favors by showing too much respect during the fight. I believe that more than anything is what cost him the match.

Cheick Kongo def. Matt Mitrione - Embarrassing performance by both guys. Godfather called it when he said Mitione was mentally weak and it showed tonight. Kongo acted totally afraid to engage and Mitione didn't take advantage of that and it cost him the fight. Funny thing about Mitione he talks all that crap before the fight and comes in the ring acting like a damn rhino and then gives that pathetic performance.


Pretty good card over all and I think I might go out of my way to catch more MMA so don't be surprised if you guys see me in this forum more often.

By the way something I noticed from the 3 main vets tonight (although much less from Penn) was that they were pretty scared to engage when faced with power punching strikers. Both Crop and moreso Kongo seemed borderline intimidated. 2 of those guys wound up retiring and given his performance Kongo might want to consider going the same route.

 

Wow, Nick Diaz just doesn't stop. BJ's technical boxing gave Diaz some problems very early but BJ didn't have one tenth the necessary cardio to keep up with Diaz. It was just a cardio beatdown. I do give a ton of credit to BJ for not just folding against Diaz like Shamrock did.

GSP better hope he can get Diaz down and keep him there. Otherwise he loses badly and probably quits.

I honestly hope the UFC make Diaz-GSP next and doesn't reschedule the Condit fight.

Also, how scared was Mitrione? Those first two rounds were pathetic. He was scared shitless to let his hands go. At least Roy Nelson went in there swinging against Cro Cop.

 

diaz beating st. pierre would be great for the world of mma. entertainment over faggotry

 

I predicted Penn was going to lose just looking at him before the fight. Physically he looked almost a decade older than his age. His face was all puffy and he just looked old to me. Then in the 2nd rd he just ran out of steam and was getting beaten to the point I thought his corner might stop the fight.

Mitrione was scared but at least he was coming forward. Kongo was running from him like a freaking chicken. Then Kongo starts attacking him for a minute in the 2nd and I'm thinking okay Kongo realizes the Mitrione is scared and he's going to attack him. Then Mitrione hits Kongo with a punch and Kongo goes right back to being a chicken shit.

Both guys fought like cowards and put on a shameful bout that should have been on the free card.

 

Sad to see BJ just get whupped like that.

I hope he stays retired, he just doesn't have it anymore. Still very skilled, still VERY tough, but just looks listless compared to prime BJ, and has crap stamina to top it off.

Diaz is just a fucking machine though, it's crazy to watch him just walk forwards throwing non stop punches, handing out the beat down. Even against Daley ::

Diaz's face goes to show what some nice, crisp punches can do though, BJ didn't even seem to land that much.

I was looking forward to Meathead Vs Kongo, but yeah it was a pathetic fight. Surprised at least 1 judge gave Kongo the first 2 rounds though, they were even, yet Kongo was running non stop.

Cerrone looked good, but then again he always looks good. Surprising he beat the ugly little Gerry that easy though. He's big for the weight too.

 

Apparently Dana and GSP read Fightbeat's MMA section... Good!

:bears:

 

hell yeah


Diaz is a real fighter, and I think he'll whoop GSP boring ass

 

Wow, Diaz boxed the shit of of BJ in that second round. He escaped nicely from his back and when he stood up, he made it much easier for himself. Diaz is great at controlling mid-range and turning the juice on his punches every once in awhile. He hooks to the body, uses a good jab, and throws a high volume.

That said, GSP will dominate him with his wrestling and jab for 5 rounds.

You have to like Diaz's post-fight tirade. "Where you at, George? Where you at, motherfucker?" <label for="rb_iconid_10"></label>

 

So you think GSP will dominate Diaz in the stand-up striking?

It just boggles my mind how Diaz continues to have his boxing underrated. He just absolutely beat the piss out of one of the most technical sound boxers in MMA and still no respect for it.

If the GSP fight remains standing, Diaz will absolutely fold GSP. GSP doesn't have near the heart to stand up to that.

Penn's cardio was no different than it was for Fitch or Edgar. Nick's pressure, body punching and volume of shots just made it look like Penn had less stamina.

 

Which was only 2 fights ago.....

And for the most part, he stood with Fitch as well. And he stood with Shields.

So yeah, he won't stand with anyone.

 

I don't know dude. He ran right through the same BJ Penn that basically beat Jon Fitch who most consider the 2nd or 3rd best Welterweight in the world.

But for me it's even simplier. BJ Penn has never been dominated in the boxing department. Edgar beat him twice in mostly stand up battles but Edgar was always a threat to take BJ down. And neither of Edgar's wins over Penn were even in the same universe of domination that Nick's was.

I've always probably been higher on Diaz than most because I dig his style. But that being said, I always thought he was great for Strikeforce but only average compared to UFC fighters. To me, the domination of Penn was the first time Diaz beat a legit Top 10 guy.

 

Been big on diaz since his fights against smith and Zaromski. To me it was ovious he was a way better fighter than before. True his lack of core strenght is still a big weakness, but I think his superb will, heart and cardio will compensate for it, especialy in a 5 rounds fight

 

Well, let's be clear. I was calling Diaz a top 5 welterweight back when he destroy Zaromskis and got ridiculed for it.

That being said, now I think he's the best WW in the world.

So it wasn't a huge move.

 

Yeah, sure, but that's the polar opposite of your first comment which was "GSP won't stand with anyone."

If you want to change your initial comment, there's nothing stopping you.

 

TKO you're underrating Diaz big time.

He beat Penn up like no else has, ever. Sure Penn was tired but he always gets tired, he's still incredibly skilled, tough, savvy.

Diaz is a machine, jsut walks forwards and dishes out a beat down, with his weird, sloppy looking, but highly accurate and effective boxing.

I'm also picking GSP but Diaz is a legit threat.

 

I agree with you. Personally, I dislike his style from an entertainment perspective because he NEVER takes any risk since the Serra fight. But I do respect his ability to fight with the least amount of risk yet still be dominant. That doesn't happen by accident.

I don't hate GSP, but I just prefer a guy like Diaz that wants to FIGHT.

 

This is the biggest point about Penn-Diaz. Penn has been busted up on the ground before with Fitch and GSP but he's never been brutalized in the stand up like that.

 

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RT @danawhite: GSP blown acl will be out for 10 mos. Now Condit vs Diaz for the interim welterweight title on Feb 4th in Las Vegas!!
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