Hamed vs Little Red Lopez

Discussion in 'Mythical Matchups' started by Xplosive, Sep 28, 2020.

  1. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Arguably the two biggest punching featherweights of all time. Who wins?

    I'd take Lopez, but it could go either way.
     
  2. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    So hard to tell. Hamed was a lot more dynamic than Lopez, but i could see this jab troubling him. Gun to my head, i think hamed wins a fight that his surprisingly dull
     
  3. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    It's impossible for this fight to be dull. There's no such thing as a dull Lopez fight. He was kill or be killed.

    He might very well get killed, but he was a straight, accurate puncher, and Naz NEVER felt power like his.

    Naz never faced a true puncher. Lopez at least faced Olivares - who although faded, still had big power at featherweight.
     
  4. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Obviously can go both ways but I'd pick Hamed as styles clearly favor him
     
  5. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Hamed wouldn't have liked those long levers. I think if Lopez {real name Murphy} can establish that jab, Hamed starts to have problems and I am not sure Hamed hits so so so hard that the few occasions he has success he just gets the job done.

    I think Hamed already has so many problems by the time he hurts Lopez he just can't capitalize.
     
  6. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Just bear in mind Lopez is about 5" taller and has a reach of 71", which is basically what Fernando Vargas had.
     
  7. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Agreed.
     
  8. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    There's a reason Hamed faced mostly short guys.
     
  9. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    Because he fought in a weight class that includes mostly short guys?
     
  10. whiskey

    whiskey Czarcasm

    He shamelessly limited his weight to duck Valuev.
     
  11. Double L

    Double L Book Reader

    There's still a distribution of heights among featherweights.
     
  12. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    The thing about Lil Red Lopez is that he wasnt some wild puncher - he was actually extremely accurate, and his right hand was super short, and straight.
     
  13. Ugotabe Kidding

    Ugotabe Kidding WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    I was just messing with you. You are correct, actually, even though there weren't many Morales-sized guys around
     
  14. Jesus of montreal

    Jesus of montreal WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

    That's true, but he wasnt athletic at all. I see hamed using his feet and staying on the outside, and lunging in with one punch and clinching afterward to avoid exchange. That's why i think it would be a rather disappointing fight.
     
  15. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Corrales was 4lbs North at one point around the time Hamed was making his way in the States. Morales was there at the same time- he chose to take on Barrera as it was felt Barrera had more damage on him and could be hurt. Smoke Gainer was 4lbs north at 130 at the same time too. Junior Jones was another easy victim but it was felt his reach and height could be problematic and he was right there for Hamed, nothing transpired.

    You can say it was too much to ask him to fight Corrales and Gainer but Morales and Jones were right there. And it's not too much to say that it was wrong for Hamed to fight Jones because he went down to Tijuana to fight Morales there on May 5th for the 122lb title and got blasted out so that fight was good enough for Erik, then Hamed could have done it too at 126 where Jones was stronger.

    Instead we got that awful farce with Cesar Soto in Detroit and the turgid affair with McCullough or that real mixed bag vs Augie Sanchez where he was down himself a couple of times before prevailing.

    Hamed definitely did fight some very good fighters but they were all tailored to suit him.........McCullough was a far tougher man than Kennedy McKinney but McCullough had no chance of winning the fight, Hamed just had no chance of stopping him. Hamed might well have iced McKinney but McKinney had at least a punchers chance.

    Hamed didn't want any of this.

    Lots of the guys that Hamed did fight wound up fighting guys Hamed didn't. Jones fought Paul Ingle. Jones fought Morales. Freddie Norwood had that fight from hell with Cermeno....another beanpole Hamed wanted nothing to do with. McCullough fought Morales. So it's not like the rest of the division was totally idle.
     
    Last edited: Oct 9, 2020
  16. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker

    Good Lord, Corrales would have put Naz in an early grave.
     
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  17. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Mayweather was a totally unknown quantity at 130 too at the same time and Hamed was making noises about how he'd do this and that. I know this because Mayweather was asked and his answer was not that of the Mayweather we know today........he said "that guy is too short, too wild, I will see all of it coming"- and ALL the noise about Hamed doing Mayweather was coming from Hamed, he had not appeared on Mayweathers radar at all.

    I think Hamed would have gotten blasted out by Corrales in short order.
     
  18. Irish

    Irish Yuge, Beautiful

    Back when boxing, and how it was broadcast, was real gooood.

    Milennial AJ at 10:47




    The fight that makes me think Danny Garcia blows out Hamed. Paul Ingle was a good fighter but he was just a toughie who had struggled very badly with a guy called Paul "Silky" Jones, and basically won that fight on a low blow, but he handled Hameds movement and power better than expected on the basis of the Paul Jones fight.

     
  19. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    This...

    Lopez was on the Slow Side, a Bit Plodding and had PUTRID Defense...He'd Be a BIG ASS Target for Hamed...And He'd Continue to BRING the Fight to Hamed All the While...




    REED:Hammer
     
  20. Xplosive

    Xplosive X-MOD Bad Motherfucker


    This isn't entirely accurate either. Well, one part is, Lopez was pretty damn easy to hit.

    I wouldn't call him a plodder though. By time he fought Sanchez he was, but look at his fights from the mid 70s when he destroyed Olivares, Art Hafey, and David Kotey - he was a high activity fighter and his right hand came out with deceptive speed.

    Hamed's been hit flush by MUCH slower guys than Lopez.
     
  21. REEDsART

    REEDsART MATCHMAKER

    "Plodder" is a FOOT WORK Term Bruh, Which WASN'T One of Lopez's Strongest Suits...At All...

    His BALANCE was Fine, but his Feet Didn't MOVE w/Any Degree of Rapidity...At All...

    Hamed has a Huuuuuuuuge Edge Over Lopez Here and Would Turn/Walk Lopez Into Counters All Night...





    REED:Hammer
     
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