Has there ever been a world level fighter as inept.....

For fuck sake Dany Romero was ranked 12th in the world in 1997

 

Now make like a tree and get out of here.




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I'm a loser with a low intellect? Says the guy with the Carlos The Jackal avatar who wants to shoot meaningless royals (more accurately, wants others to do that while he rests his arms in a comfy chair) and keeps making bullshit claims left and right, and who also resorts to insults all the time... a guy who is so out of the fucking loop that he thinks Nikolai Valuev is still fighting

I'm a mason? 7 years ago, sure... good try, it is in keeping with your tradition of being years behind

 

Show me where I insulted someone without reason on this forum.

 

he was a better fighter than Khan who was facing better opponents

David Reid was "borderline" P4P despite never attaining a ranking within 13 places of TENTH... Where do you think Amir Khan (with an even thinner resume) ranked before last night? 10 places higher at least, I'd bet

 

Please, that would take a good 10 minutes of my time... you aren't worth that effort

 

No, never tought he was near being top 10 p4p. he had a decent streak but I dont know anyone credible who had this guy as high as you think he was

 

nice cop out . As I said you're a loser who always make bullshit claims.

And Danny Romere resume is pretty similar to Khan, and it's extremely debatable wether he was indeed better.

I get it that you overate Romero cause he was american, and despise Khan cause you think he's an arab, but they're is not a huge gap between the 2

 

Bullshit claims = pointing out things that you disagree with

you're a rocket scientist, Jacques

 

no, I pointed out two bullshit claims you've made in this thread alone, and they have nothing to do with opinion.

 

Who? Khan?

He's ranked 1 or 2 in what currently passes for a good division, doesn't matter if you knew anybody credible who had him at 10 or at 70, what matters is the OVERALL PERCEPTION... Khan was/is a "superstar"... ask yourself, who are the 5 most famous boxers in the world right now? The Klits, FLoyd, Pac and then very likely you've got Khan in there... David Reid, even with a gold medal and all of that shit, never had a Cache like Khan, and unlike Khan he was 23rd, not 11th or 12th, BIG fucking difference there. Who is 23rd RIGHT NOW? Do you have any idea off hand? It's a night and day thing... you have your top ten, guys everybody knows, then you have your second 10 where everybody will generally have an idea, after that you could be 23 or 53 and it really doesn't matter, you are part of "the rest", nobody pays any special attention to the ranking of guys under 15 really

 

you've done no such thing

 

Who care how popular Khan is. The guy was a star in the UK before even turning pro, it has nothing to do with his quality as a pro boxer (it was due to his am career and ethnicity). US boxing media overated him cause they're in bed with his promoter. Nobody who's a serious boxing fan, and who's not influenced by hype would have placed this gy near the top 10 p4p. And he's not as bad as you're making him out to be. He's better than the Paulie ayala danny Romero and David Reid of this world

 

You're such a jackoff:l1:

RomerO (not Romere', he's not from your neck of the woods)

Honestly, I could not give a flying fuck what country any fighter is from or what his religious persuasion is, my history proves this ad infinitum (you might have to look that term up, Bonhomme) ... Outside of Whitaker, Starling and Saad Muhammad (a MUSLIM:34:) my favorite fighters have all come from other countries ... Arguello from Nicaragua, Chavez and Olivares from Mexico, Ken Buchanan from Scotland, Azumah Nelson from Ghana, you get the idea, moron.

I hated Romero, thought he was overrated as fuck (same with Khan, who is ranked just as high or higher) and couldn't give two shits if he was American... I rooted for Lennox Lewis against Holy and Tyson, you couldn't swing and miss harder on this if you tried... try another one, jackass

 

is he top 3 at 140? Answer that

Now I would like you to go ahead and gives us your top 20 p4p right now

 

BUT THE ALMANAC SAYS!!!!

 

I don't do list, as I think it's incredibly silly. (Is there really a difference between 7th and 8th ??), but they're at least 15 fighters that I think deserved to rated higher than Khan before yesterday.

Mayweather
Pac
Marquez
Cotto
Bradley
W K
V K
Hopkin
Dawson
Ward
Froch
donaire
Martinez
Gamboa
John

then you have those that rate at about the same level such as Pascal, Bute, Huck , Cunningham, Adamek, Kessler, Broner, Rios, juan Ma and about a million others.


And i didn't even include midgets cause I don't follow them

 

Before last night, BoxRec (which guys like you love) had Khan ranked number 9 P4P in the world

 

which means the list has no meaning or value

Outside of yourself, who is "credible"?

 

In 1998, Manfredy was ranked 16th in the world by ko magazine. another stupid claim made by you.

And barerra wasn't tiny, he had a terrific performance against marquez just 5 lbs lighter

 

no, it only mean that theyr is probably even more fighter that should rate higher than him.

 

How is it a stupid claim? YOU said Manfredy was rated top 25 TEN YEARS AGO, I checked and you (who made that stupid claim) were incorrect... he was rated 48... what does 1998 (three fucking years earlier than what we were talking about) have to do with anything?

Barrera was absolutely tiny compared to Khan, it's not even debateable, he was an old, washed up fighter... two years might as well be ten when you are a 35 year old man with 71 fights (including many brutal ones) and TWENTY years under your belt... that fight was seen as a ridiculous mismatch before it happened, I remember everyone here chucking about it... It is complete revisionist nonsense to try and turn that into a good, meaningful win... But I expect nothing less from you

 

I didn't say 10 years ago, I said about 10 years ago, so 1998 is perfectly whithin the scope of what I was talking about.

And no I don't think the Barerra fight was a huge win, it was a management made win, but it was a decent win against a good ,tough faded, inside fighter.

It's funny that you try to make me pass as a Khan fan as I don't even like the parki, and was happy Peteron won. But the level some person goes to denigrate him is just sickening.


anyway my only beef was this quote : ''put this kid in any time between 1940 and 2000 and he never gets this far, he gets picked off several times''. As Angel Manfreddy was rated at about the same level as Khan is right now, and is not as good as Khan, it was a stupid comment. But I don't expect you to be man enough to admit it.

 

Yeah cause Boxrec is well know for theyr credible lists. Hell I think they're compiled with a mathemical formula

 

dear non-uk brethren: "parki" is seen by british english speakers as a pretty offensive term, kinda like casually referring to lamont petersen as "that negro". using the word "parki" on the board could very well give the wrong impression to a lot of people.

god bless

 

I call all my pakistani friends 'parki' and we've always used it as shorthand in normal conversation. As with any word, context and intent is everything.

But yeah, it's fair to point that out, in case anyone isn't aware & I should maybe be more careful with my use of it here (though in the context of the posts I've used it in, I doubt anyone would take offense). I got into trouble here once for saying 'Jap' which isn't really seen as offensive here. Slippery, slippery.

 

Again, moron, why is he not as good as Khan?? Because he was found out against Floyd Mayweather? That's all hindsight and gibberish... Manfredy (M-a-n-f-r-e-d-y, not Mannfredy, not Manfreddy, for fuck's sake) was every bit as good as Khan... There's nothing to suggest otherwise... You think Khan doesn't get humiliated against a fighter the level of Mayweather in 1999 (twelve years ago, not ten, not "around 10, 12) ? of course he does, he's a speedy athlete with no real boxing skills to speak of... Manfredy's lesser athleticism is more than made up for by his considerable advantages in craft... Nothing, other than hype, shows Khan to be any better than him

The comment was completely justified and true... Put Khan around 1989-1992 or so and he's not beating the Roger Mayweathers, Frankie Randalls, Loreto Garzas, Rafael Pinedas, Buddy McGirts of the world, never mind Chavez or Taylor... Even in a weaker time for that division, the mid 70s for example, it's hard to envision him ever making it all the way to a shot at Cervantes or Benitez... if you consider this day-before weigh-in nonsense, he's really a welterweight, so you could be real brutal and put him in 1996 against the Lopez/Carr/Page tier and I don't see him winning any of those, forget Ike/Oscar/Trinidad/Whitaker... I don't think he could beat Diobelys Hurtado... Keep him at 140, you think he does anything against Tszyu? Of course not, he gets grounded to powder

 

I dont disagree with a word you said in the 2nd paragraph.

BUT..... Khan still beats Gatti and Ward.::

 

Ward definitely, no disagreement, my friend

Gatti is a bit more of a wild card, because unlike Ward he can punch to the head

 

Yeah, Gatti would have a puncher's chance.