Hatton is such a fat fuck

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Most of Ortho's Statements have a HIGH "Bullshit Factor", Thus Making it DIFFICULT to Single Out just 1...

It's like Picking your Favorite Beatles Song...Virtually IMPOSSIBLE...


REED:dunno:

 

Castillo, Tszyu, Tackie, Maussa and Urango are hardly 'jokes'. And it's all well and good saying NOW that Tszyu and Castillo were shot- that was NOT the general consensus before either fight and Hatton was a heavy underdog in the former and a coin-flip in the latter.

Who else would you have wanted him to fight at 140?

That said, and for the purposes of objectivity, I will admit that compared to 147, which at the minute is a very loaded division, 140 is a pretty sparse place to be. HOWEVER, Hatton had, by general consensus, cleaned the division out 12 months or so ago, and it is only NOW that there is a clamour for him to fight Junior Witter (who has emerged as a genuine threat) and to a lesser extent, Paulie Malignaggi.

Look man, I know we have had numerous disagreements on this point, but the bottom line is that Hatton leaning on fighters, wearing them down through his strength and holding during fights IMO is NOT cheating. It is part of boxing. It may be an ugly part of boxing at times, but in a practical sense, sometimes it makes sense to fight this way.

Even groin shots, which are illegal, are part of the game. They are tactical shots which almost all fighter's have used at some stage.

I can say this objectively, because at NO stage for example have I ever complained about Mayweather's 'unorthodox' defense (like Kauki and others) or will I complain about Hopkins when he tries to butt, hold and clinch Calzaghe when they fight in April. In fact, I would list those traits in Hopkins as 'attributes' rather than criticisms.

For me, the bottom line is that this is the FIGHT game, not skipping in the school yard. All that dirty stuff is an integral part of the game, and referees should always allow it to go on to SOME extent IMO.

It's the lack of objectivity and consistency which pisses me off. The same people who complain about Hatton say nothing about Floyd, or Holyfield, or Hopkins etc. Complain and criticize ALL for it, or accept it as part of the game and move on...

MTF

 

This bit is 100% accurate... :clap:

...the rest though is BS, IMO

 

Re-read my posts AGAIN brother LOK.

I am not saying that Hatton lost because of the weight- I said that Hatton lost SO COMPREHENSIVELY because of the weight. You will see that I said that this is because, although Mayweather started out as a lightweight, he is better able to adjust to the step up in weight than Hatton, who can't do this AT ALL, it seems.

And lightweight is NOT Mayweather's natural fighting weight- he is the WELTERWEIGHT champion of the world, FFS!

In fact, as I have said on a number of occasions, if the two fought at 140, IMO it would be more competitive but the result would be the same.

Your post, therefore, makes little sense to me I'm afraid...expect that it again shows your hatred of Hatton :dunno:

 

all im sayin is all you guys that were suckin hattons dick are now claiming that "if it was at 140"
or

"cortez did a bad job"

or

Hatton is really not a welter" as if Floyd is.. ::

sounds like a bunch of excuses to me

 

Well, Sean, why didn't Jone stay at Heavyweight? Is Heavyweight a natural weigh for Roy? I think it is, he walks around there, he had a winning fight there, fuck, he was heavyweight champeen, after all, so why isn't he still there doing the heavyweight thang?

I'll tell you why, cos, 60/40 he gets his ass whupped. Thats why.

He's not a heavyweight, he just fucked around there against Johnny Louise.

Hatton is no Welterweight. I don't give a fuck what weight he is when he's not trainining.

Thats why we have weight divisions and FIGHTING WEIGHTS.

 

Considering that Roy won the heavyweight championship of the world and walked around at Heavyweight for large parts of his reign as a light heavyweight, then shouldn't Roy still be at Heavyweight, and why did he run from heavyweight to get his ass whupped 60/40 by Tarver and Roadkill Johnson??

 

Back in the day, anything over 190 was a heavyweight. You know Roys exact movements and weights?

The only movements you know about from a Roy perspective are his bowel movements.

What a pity Roys country ass forgets to flush.

Now....why isn't Roy up at Heavyweight? He done fought there????? No??

Come on now Mista Sean......

 

When somebody loses, there has to be an explanation for the loss.

In the case of Hatton against Floyd, IMO Hatton lost because:

1. He is not capable of fighting elite guys at 147
2. He did not seriously think Mayweather could hurt him and made a serious underestimation.
3. Cortez decided from the get-go that Hatton was not going to be allowed to fight as he usually likes to inside.
4. Mayweather is a better fighter. Period.

I for one have no problem with any of that little lot, especially the 4th, HOWEVER, I take issue when people start talking about Hatton being a 'bitch' or calling him 'Vicky' and other such shit. Hatton is a very, very good champion at 140. The fact that he is not as good as Mayweather should not detract from this fact... :tease:

Oh, and not all of the Hatton cocksuckers on here are making excuses. In fact, most of them conveniently vanished and left a handful of us here to face the music... ::

 

I said the same thing.

None of that means that

1. Ricky is a bitch.

2. Cortez is a decent guy.

 

Tackie isn't good. Urango isn't good. Maussa is a joke.

Castillo and Tszyu were great in their careers and if Hatton gets a pass at 147 then Castillo has to get a pass at 140 as well because he wasn't the same at 140 as he was at 135. Not to mention he was past his prime, not getting paid and his brother died right before the fight.

Zoo was real inactive and injury prone before the Hatton fight. Then add all the cheating Hatton done in the fight and there is no way you can give Hatton credit for that fight.

 

Number 3 i don't get. Holding is not fighting inside. When 2 fighters are locked up they get broken up. Only difference was that Cortez actually took a point and warned Vicky for the cheating. The other refs let him do it.

 

Holding is part of boxing. Fighters should be broken up if they cannot break the clinch themselves by fighting out of it, NOT simply because they come together for a half second. I already explained this part to you earlier. :dunno:

If you insist that this is not the case, and that it is 'cheating', then what is your explanation for Floyd turning his back on his opponent and/or using his forearms to defend himself?

 

I love people who describe world titlists as 'jokes'. Some perspective goes a long way... ::

What pass does Hatton get at 147? He's B-level at 147. That's not giving him a pass, that's stating it as it is. :dunno:

All the rest of this is historical revisionism and hate in it's truest form (apart from Castillo's brother dying). Did you pick Hatton to win either of the Tszyu or Castillo fights?

 

fine, this is mostly agreed. but it's simple: labelling all those fights as 'jokes' is inaccurate.

you won rjjp4p - hatton got clearly beaten by floyd. no need to go overboard and try to rewrite history.

 

not just "clearly beaten"

he got DOMINATED and KTFO like a BITCH!!!

 

:blobbox:

 

What really happened was that Hatton pushed forwards as he always does. When he got close, PBF wrapped his arms around him and Cortez immediately jumped in to separate them

 

:nono: I am the walrus, done. But what are you doin' listenin to that Tom-music anyway?.. wasn't the first british invasion bad enough?..:nono:

 

Let It Be is their best song IMO.

 

eleanor rigby

 

I think that's one of thier very WORST, but that's no suprise, seeing as I seem to hate all your favourite fighters aswell :doh: .

 

What do you think of Manny Pacquiao?

 

An irrelevant midget, pretty much.

 

He's listed as half an inch shorter than Kostya Tszyu.

 

Hey Jude

 

Beatles are overrated IMO.