Haye at HW...?

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  1. dsimon3387

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    Haye will clear all the Germans out of the division once and for all :lol:
     
  2. LOK

    LOK I'll eat your asshole alive

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    we can only hope Dsimon.. :lol:

    hopefully by 2010 there will be a lot more car and dish washers in Germany
     
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    I love the heavies that is my division but I feel like I don't know them anymore. :dunno: Peter looks slower than the ButterBean to me! :doh: And like he could not go many more rounds than the Bean.
     
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    Ok, I will.



    Not.:tease:

    Here are the top-10 heavyweights picked from fightnews (I dropped Valuev out just to even the scales) and nine guys Muhammad Ali faced in his championship reign in the 70s and their weights from their lasts fights

    Modern hevyweights (aka "few very big guys")

    Wlad 238
    Chagaev 229
    Maskaev 243
    Peter 251
    Thompson 246
    Povetkin 227
    Ibragimov 219
    Briggs 273
    Dimitrenko 253
    Virchis 249

    average weight 242,8 lbs


    Ali and his opponents (aka guys of modern size). I took Foreman and nine guys following him so the list doesn't include Leon Spinks who was -200 lbs and wouldn't get a licence these days

    Ali 217
    Foreman 220
    Wepner 225
    Lyle 219
    Bugner 230
    Frazier 215
    Coopman 206
    Young 209
    Dunn 207
    Norton 218

    Average weight 216,6 lbs

    So there is 26,2 lbs difference between the average wight of these challengers. Just think how many weight classes that is in boxing. Is it a coincidence that the heavyweight limit is now also 25 lbs higher than it was back then? Are the small guys not allowed to participte because they would expose these fatsos perhaps? :rolleyes:

    Then make a comparsion between 70s and 40s, see the results and think, if it still is a coincidence and size does not really matter
     
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    Add another stat there and all will become clear - average body fat percentage. Im guessing the combined muscle mass of the two lists would be very close and what difference there is can be accounted for by idiots like Briggs following bodybuilding routines which are USELESS to a boxer.
     
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    Sure. Just like fighters got "fatter" from 40s to 70s. Just like pretty much all athletes have become fatter.

    So why isn't there a 200 lbs KO puncher who would train and knock out all these guys since it would be so easy? Just one guy? One guy in the whole fucken world who would decide to train unlike everybody else does?
     
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    David Haye :bears:

    He'll demolish your big, beloved, robotic Euro bums.
     
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    dsimon writes:

    There could well be. Haye for example. Who has tried Ugo? :doh: Brock is not a big puncher, the germans NOT, lets reserve judgement, wait and see.
     
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    David Haye is gonna get laid the fuck out after eating a few shots from "Touch of Sleep"
     
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    Watching Haye on Saturday reminded me of when I first saw Hamed on US TV (HBO)!!

    Lots of hype knocking out 2nd rate bums,but once he stepped up his shit,lost badly and was never seen ever again:lol:

    I definatley see Haye in the same exact light as Hamed!!
     
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    TOTALLY agREED...

    N Terms of Lighthearted BRAVADO, ACCENTS & the Utter BELIEF N Their Punching Power, Haye & Prince R VERY Similar...

    Like Hamed, Haye has HUGE Legs, which is No Doubt where the Bulk of his Power GENERATES From...

    Like U, REED was INSTANTLY Reminded of Prince, Afterwards...Haye was Sooooooooo RELAXED During his Ringwalk, REED Half Expected him to Start Dancing...



    REED:cool:
     
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    Is there a Barrera @ heavy? :dunno:
     
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    No but there was a Carl Thompson at Cruiser.
     
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    So, Haye isn't Hamed, because Haye's fought on and gotten better.

    POINT GAME. HA!
     
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    Yep, he's already lost and came back. He's no pussy like Hamed.
     
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    Now I'm more confident of Haye's potential success at heavyweight :bears:
     
  17. D MAN

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    LOL he's gonna drop like a stack of bricks as soon as his chin gets tapped.
     
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    It's a possibility, but knowing that's your stance has given me more hope :tease:
     
  19. Tam Tam

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    I just got his name I think. Is it like street speak? "Damn, yo, he D Man"? Am I right>
     
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    You nailed it :bears:


    Actually its my initial.. but either way..
     
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    David Haye will be the next World Heavyweight Champion.
     
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