Haye vs Ruiz Preview by Chris Baldwin

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  1. who?

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    haye is gonna gas and then get stopped.
     
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    Tyson, Byrd, Holyfield, Povetkin, Oquendo, Hide, just off the top of my head.

    Haye isn't particularly fast at all. I would have thought he'd be faster, being a cruisweight and all. His punches are telegraphed, and have only slightly above average velocity for a heavyweight.

    Wlad has faster hands too, or at least he did in his prime.
     
  3. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    I agree. Ruiz is going to catch Haye at this rate.
     
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    Tyson, Hide yes, the rest no. And Hide wasn't world class so he doesn't count.
     
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    his punches are telegraphed as fuck. he only throws when the other guy isnt. he's predictable and to be honest not very good.

    does anyone rate haye that highly?
     
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    BTW - has Ruiz initiated a single clinch? Good on him.
     
  7. Joe King

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    Too bad Norman Stone wasn't at this fight.
     
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    Ref sucks.

    Haye hit him behind the head.

    Again.

    Haye has NO CHANCE against anyone with a chin who can maintain ANY OFFENSE on him.
     
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    You've got to be kidding me?

    You think Haye is faster than Povetkin and Byrd? Their hands are MUCH quicker, it's not even close.

    Haye's punches are telegraphed and not even particularly fast.
     
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    holyfield was faster, michael spinks was
     
  11. Joe King

    Joe King WBC Silver Diamond Emeritus Champ

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    Nope and this is after he's been hurt a couple of times. This is a good fight.
     
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    well he's clearly, clearly the 3rd best heavyweight in the world. Doesn't say much, but he's basically the only heavyweight in fights worth watching.
     
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    Haye isn't world class at heavyweight in most eras.
     
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    There's nothing clear about it. He wasn't even clearly better than Valuev.
     
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    Still better than any of the other names mentioned aside Tyson & holyfield.
     
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    These rabbit punches are getting ridiculous.
     
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    Byrd was much, much better than Haye.
     
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    Byrd was extremely overrated. No.
     
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    Prime Holyfield was significantly faster than Haye, and yes so was Spinks.

    Even in today's awful HW divison, Pov's hands are twice as quick as Haye's.

    Haye's jab has half decent speed, his right hand is average speed and telegraphed.
     
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    LOL at the announcers saying Ruiz's corner should stop the fight.
     
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    Haye is back to his old routine. Trying to steal it. Mouth WIDE open. Wide slow shots. Infrequent rights. Hope they dont pull Johnny out;
     
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    haye corner should stop the fight to spare Haye the late round whooping is gonna get :crying::crying:
     
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    Some of the shit being spat in this thread is ridiculous...not even worthy of reply.
     
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    his wide hooks are terrible punches.
     
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    Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better.
     
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    Povetkin throws SHORTER more compact punches. They aren't faster.
     
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    This site is funny.
     
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    Come on Brits, lets call it like it is now.
     
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    Idiocy. Based on what? Close wins over Oquendo, McLine or 1 armed Oldyfield? Haye would have knocked those guys out. Byrd was about as good as Ruiz and it seems pretty clear Haye is better than Ruiz.
     
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    Listening to the cluless, drivelling, nuthugging Brit commentators actually makes me feel ashamed to be British.
     

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