HBO Article on the Margarito hand-wrapping incident

:cheer:Cotto is still undefeated...yeah...we agree whiskey..yeah.....artiearty up here..let the whiteboy in he won't be harm...:hammert:

 

:bears:I have waited a long time to see his chin finally crack!

 

Banned for only 1 year??? For Margarito that alright i guess.....you gotta give him just a bit of leverage maybe he didn't know...but most likely he did..but he lied better than his trainer....

Now his old ass Trainer knew what he was doing...he should be ban for life...it's not that long if you think about it....

 

I picked Cotto by close decision in that fight. Can i get a win put back on my prediction record? ::

 

What a fucking sweet day this is.

I am not one bit surprised, and really I should be - because spiking gloves/handwraps is pretty fucking rare, it's not like steroids.

But there is something about marge that I never liked, I just got bad vibes from him, in addition to not rating him highly as a fighter, so that's why I am not surprised he is a cheating scumbag.

His career is over now, without a doubt.

You know, one thing I fucking hate is cheaters.

One of the things I love about boxing is how fair a sport it generally is. One on one, in a ring, fist to fist, same weight, same type of training etc, same weight gloves.

Stuff like this sickens me.

Even though I am a GSP fan and he would have kicked the shit out of Penn anyway, the cheating with the Vaseline left a sour taste in my mouth, and I would not be disappointed if he/his team are punished.

And that's just some fucking vaseline we're talking about, to make him slippery, not gloves loaded with plaster of paris

Margarito should be dealt with fucking harshly to discourage anyone else tempted to do something so cuntish and idiotic.

Fined for every penny he has, and a lifetime ban from boxing.

 

Margarito without plaster in that fight...and i think Cotto would have won an easy decision....8-4...Cotto gets tired but not as early as round 6...somewhere around 9-10...

 

This Certainly Brings Several Years Worth of Margarito Related Debates to a STUNNING CONCLUSION...



REED:hammert:

 

Based on what, wedding shirt's "bad vibes"?

The people who have argued against Margarito the most are now retroactively giving themselves credit...and yet also stating that his previous performances may have been iillegally enhanced.

Seems rather incongruous, if the debates were really about a fighter's (percieved) abilities and based on (the perception of) their performances, rather than just the fighter himself.

 

I have no doubt in my mind Cotto would have beat that prick by dec.

 

It certainly does. The marge haters were right, he is an average fighter with a very good chin, and as it happens, loaded gloves ::

 

Actually no, based on the fact that he is a cheating scumbag, and in all probability cheated to beat Cotto and turn his face into a pile of mince meat.

 

Where were the claims of being "a cheating scumbag" during those actual debates?

And why stop at Cotto?

 

I guess the folks here assume incompetance by cotto's corner (and all the other margarito foes) or maybe evangilista cotto noticed these allegedly illegal wraps and let it slide to see his nephew take a humbling ass whipping?

 

maybe he didn't felt the gauze/wraps w/ his hands....Margarito special/accidental wraps got by the boxing commissioner/inspector...

 

Just for the record, for people who have an agenda, 'selective focus' and a contradictory log for illegal impliments on the broader scale, it has to be noted, that this finding in 2009, in no way relates to, nor eleviates Fraud Mayweather's bizarre bitch-fit, in 2006.

Margarito and his team could have killed Shane Mosely with those rigged hands, the harshest possible penalty should be applied to prevent other participants who are thinking about, or who are CURRENTLY doing similar things, as I highly doubt him and Tito are the only ones,.. .. even Bernard Hopkins, ironically indicated, when he contributed to the "Cheato' article on Maxboxing years ago,.. that he was "actually giving some things away by saying this" regarding the descriptive method of Tito's wraps.

 

MOST of Us have BEEN Criticizing Margarito for YEARS (Not Sure where this "Retroactive" Shit is Coming from)...The Cotto Fight was THE ONE & ONLY Time we were Forced to RECONSIDER our Opinions of Margaritio...

& NOW we See Why...Unless YOU Actually Believe that BLOODY Guaze ISN'T an Indicator over Being PREVIOUSLY Used....



REED::

 

The Claims were of how "AVERAGE" Margarito Looked in Every Regard EXCEPT his Chin...Even his POWER was Being DEBATED, yet it NEVER Looked BETTER than it Did vs. Cotto...

Hmmmmmm???....


REED:hammert:

 

good boy Kauki....here is a cookie....:crafty:

 

I hate cheaters, now I hate Marg, and if Marg had illegal handwraps for the Cotto fight, whoever was overseeing the wraping of Marg's hands should have to get in the ring with Cotto, with Cotto using loaded gloves.

 

Yeah, Mosley's trainer did say a lot of the other opponent's trainers are in there shooting the shit and not really watching the handwrapping process take place as they should be doing. I don't know how accurate that is but I would wager there is a lot of things that could go into how a fighter/trainer could get away with illegal wraps even if they are being watched.

Basically there should be a mandatory watch and then feel process done for both fighters wrappings by people from both camps and there should be a third neutral party connected to the commision who also does a watch and feel of the wraps. New problems require new rules, but as usual, boxing does nothing to right the ship.

 

Mitchell I see exactly what you are saying. How could you argue that he 'was so shitty and beatable' and yet now point to his loaded gloves as evidence of this.. without having known it at the time it makes no sense..

However, there is a flip side to this... one could argue that they saw Margarito as the seriously flawed boxer that he is.. they saw his lack of defence.. lack of precision, fluidity etc.. and that his hardened wraps were the reason why he had the ability to make opponents wilt mentally under his pressure, bust up there faces. In addittion to his despicable weight draining, there was something imperceptible about him that made him get W's despite seeming so flawed.. and now we know just what it was.

It sort of goes both ways.

 

What would be really crazy is if the DNA in the bloodstains was that of Cotto, Cintron. Clottey, etc.:hammert:

 

It looked good against Cintron too. If I had to guess yes or no, I'd say he had loaded gloves for both the Cotto and 2nd Cintron fight just going off of the early reactions both fighters seemed to have towards Margarito's punches. Cintron seemed to react badly to every punch from the get go and Cotto seemed so bothered right from the start that he got on his bike and never seemed to sit down on his shots.

Usually fighters don't show such negative reactions right from the start but these guys.

 

Yes, I'll take your share of the cookies too, seeing as you still worship Tito as one of the fine pioneers of this delightful crime.

Flop a burka on those fat ivory swivels in your sig mate, those are not for piccaso's eyes, although that face certainly is.

 

it would be crazy, cos it would have to mean that Margarito must've beaten up those guys without wearing any gloves at all!

.....surely any blood would be his own? :dunno:



ok, i may have missed something.....but was it just the one substance found?....if so, then what about the other hand?

 

:nono: Tito was never suspended....Tito was never had a boxing commission hearing to revoke his license....Tito did not have pieces of plaster coming out of his wraps....Tito's wraps were not WET like Margarito.....bottom line..>TITO had NO PLASTER in his wraps...unlike Margarito....


by Hopkins people Tito had too much tape and gauze...but how much is tooo much..? 6 inches..more? 10 feet of tape? :dunno:


Papa Trinidad has been praise by Vegas or LA boxing commissions because of the way he wraps his fighter hands....protecting fighters bread makers....


MARGARITO IS A CHEATER......ol'cockeye trainer of his is even a bigger cheater...

 

Gloves do rip::

 

The same substance was pulled from both pair of wraps. Also I agree the blood would likely be Margarito's IMO. I would imagine he's going to suffer a bit hitting someone with bricks laced to his knuckles even if it is only his knuckles that are taking punishment as opposed to his opponent's head, ribs, jaw, etc, etc.

 

his power looked better versus cotto? but it failed to impress you in any other fight, some where he may have also had illegal wraps?

 

cintron reacted badly to jesse feliciano's punches also. the guys chin is not good